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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: bernard_lewis on Tuesday 27 January 26 11:48 GMT (UK)
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I can't find this lady's will on the UG Gov probate website. I've tried (I think) every combination but still get a "0" documents result.
Does the fact that her will was "resealed" for Kenya interests mean its not available in the UK?
Bernard
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I found it without any trouble.
On the first search page, use 1957 (the probate year) as the year of death. Don't enter any info on the 2nd search page, just save and continue.
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Thanks but that image is what I posted originally.
I'm after a copy of her actual will, not just the probate calendar entry. I've ordered several wills of other people in the past but can't find Winifred... very odd!
Still puzzled... but thanks for trying.
Bernard
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I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong but I don't think you can find Wills on the Probate site, just when probate was granted and to whom.
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I've ordered several wills of other people in the past but can't find Winifred... very odd!
I'm not clear from this response whether you mean that you have submitted an order on the HMCTS website using the information contained in the calendar, and had the order returned as unfound, or something else. If it is the former, then that suggests the will may not be availbale in the UK, perhaps due to the resealing in Kenya. In my experience the IronMountain staff who deal with normal orders don't understand the resealing process, and you will probably need to take up your case with the probate registry staff, using this link: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/courts/newcastle-district-probate-registry
Don't expect this to be a simple experience. You will need to complete a PA15 form and submit it along with the current fee (it was £1.50 in February 2024 but may have gone up in line with the standard ordering service) and a search fee (£3 in 2024) to the Newcastle office of the Probate service (address will be given to you along with a copy of the form when you first contact them).
I had to follow this process in 2024 for a will which had been proved in Barbados and resealed in London.
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Thanks for the advice.
I've not ordered Winifred's will yet as I can't find it.
I'm using the https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills website but - trying the possible name variations - I can't turn up the will document that I'd like to order.
I'll follow your advice...
Bernard
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Bernard,
the answer ShaunJ gave you earlier is taken from the https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills website. You may be filling in too much information in your search. Just use the surname and year of death and nothing else. That should bring a page or two of Tennants, and after you have found Winifred's entry you then need to transfer the relevant parts of the calendar entry into the order form on the right hand side of the page.
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Do you know that the cost of a copy of a will has now increased from £1.50 to £16
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No, I didn't. I think I was paying £3 a few months ago...
Bernard
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It was originally £10 then it was reduced to £1.50 for many years
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/storage-and-retention-of-original-will-documents/storage-and-retention-of-original-will-documents
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The image you posted is not the same as that on the Government website, it looks as if you have taken it from Ancestry. The image Shaun posted is from the Government Probate website and you simply follow the instructions.
Sometimes you have to replace the year of death with the year of probate, that is the case in this instance.
Do as Shaun told you and put in only her name and in the year of death put in the following year 1957, scroll down and you will see the image. Click to open the image and then you will see where to order on the right side of the screen, make sure on the order from you put both her first and midd names. It all goes through with no problem.
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Ah! I'll try that tomorrow!
Thanks.
Bernard