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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: Andruchappelle on Monday 26 January 26 11:46 GMT (UK)
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Hello everyone,
I'm having a bit of a hard time finding the family of valentine Atwood/Attwood, born in Sussex abt. 1819.
I can only find records of him in prison at the age of 18 and again at 28, but can't seem to find any record of his family.
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On his marriage record it says his father is Thomas Attwood. I've found a Thomas and Sarah Attwood on the Weebly Romani site but the dates don't match up, and can't find any other Thomas Attwood in any parish records.
Wondering if anyone else is searching for attwoods on here?
Regards
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Did he marry Mary Burchet in 1844? Father Thomas was a Tailor. Valentine is just shown as full age occ labourer
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Baptism 11.10.1818 Wartling Sussex
Valentine Attwood - parents Thomas & Elizabeth. Thomas occ shown as Tailor
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1841 census Graves or Groves House Wartling Sussex - all b Sussex. In 1841 - Ages from 16yrs onwards were rounded down to the nearest 5yrs
Thomas Atwood 55 Tailor
Elizabeth 65
Valentine 20 agric labourer
Piece 1105/13/27/1
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His '41 census entry shows a change of occupation. In '38 when he stole the copper boiler he was a whitesmith. In '41 he's an Ag. Lab.
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Daughter Frances b 1848. GRO online shows her mmn as Burchet
1851 shows her as 2yrs old with mother Mary Attwood & Thomas Attwood aged 5yrs. Mary us shown as marriec
1851 reference Piece 1634/261/33
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In 1861 - it looks as though Valentine has become James aged 44b Wartling
1861 ref Piece 557/9/12
Birth reg for Daughter Rosetta aged 3 shows mmn Birchett
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The newspaper report of his '47 conviction has James Valentine Attwood. The prison record has Valentine Atwood.
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Did he marry Mary Burchet in 1844? Father Thomas was a Tailor. Valentine is just shown as full age occ labourer
Yes that is him Carole he married Mary and father was Thomas. Thanks!
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1841 census Graves or Groves House Wartling Sussex - all b Sussex. In 1841 - Ages from 16yrs onwards were rounded down to the nearest 5yrs
Thomas Atwood 55 Tailor
Elizabeth 65
Valentine 20 agric labourer
Piece 1105/13/27/1
Ah brilliant so his mother seems to be an Elizabeth, thank you for looking that up.
I am not very experienced with look ups so appreciate the help.
Is there any way to find out Elizabeth's maiden name?
Regards
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His '41 census entry shows a change of occupation. In '38 when he stole the copper boiler he was a whitesmith. In '41 he's an Ag. Lab.
Thank you for this info, I did wonder what he was in prison for!
Regards
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There is a marriage in Sussex on www.familysearch.org but it was about 35yrs before Valentine was born
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There is a marriage in Battle 11.10.1806 to Elizabeth Hounsell but nothing to identify Thomas's occupation
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Baptism @ Wartling 15.12.1816 - John Attwood son of Thomas (occ tailor) & Elizabeth
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Father Thomas Attwood is on the 1851 census - widower aged 67 occ Tailor - b Wartling.
Piece 1635/583/51
Looks like he died on 14.3.1867
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His '41 census entry shows a change of occupation. In '38 when he stole the copper boiler he was a whitesmith. In '41 he's an Ag. Lab.
Whitesmith aka brazier or tinsmith - typically itinerant worker in white metal (as opposed to the black metal a blacksmith uses in a forge).
When the 41 census was taken he may well have been employed as an ag lab as the travelling season hadn't yet started.
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His '41 census entry shows a change of occupation. In '38 when he stole the copper boiler he was a whitesmith. In '41 he's an Ag. Lab.
Whitesmith aka brazier or tinsmith - typically itinerant worker in white metal (as opposed to the black metal a blacksmith uses in a forge).
When the 41 census was taken he may well have been employed as an ag lab as the travelling season hadn't yet started.
By '47 he was a "smith" at a coachbuilders from whom he stole brass and iron.
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Anyone able to find details of his mother and father???
I have tried looking with no luck and I'm relatively new to this!
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I have tried looking with no luck and I'm relatively new to this!
Andruchappelle, You are hardly new, but perhaps just want others to do the work for you.
You have another thread here.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=896523.0
Was it your intention to return to it, or acknowledge the huge amount of time given freely by Rootschatters to assist you?
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I have tried looking with no luck and I'm relatively new to this!
Andruchappelle, You are hardly new, but perhaps just want others to do the work for you.
You have another thread here.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=896523.0
Was it your intention to return to it, or acknowledge the huge amount of time given freely by Rootschatters to assist you?
Hi Neale,
Well, I would say relatively new to this considering the fact that I started doing research about 2 or 3 months ago, done an ancestryDNA test around 2 months ago, and am just getting the hang of using research tools, and also getting used to using this website.
I am using all the resources I have available to me to research what I can at this moment in time, and I have found a lot of information out through my own means.
I have come to a dead end with Valentine Atwood, and have used all the resources that I have access to trying to find information about him, and searched countless parish records for him that I have found available online. I didn't think that I was doing something wrong by asking if anyone could help me research.
I realise there are lots of people on this website that have access to many more resources than I do and are much more experienced than me.
And I kind of thought that the website was about people helping eachother in research and connecting through sharing information and helping eachother research? I've seen many people asking for others to do look ups on here.
I am very grateful for the people who have taken their time to help me on here so far!
Including you, I know that you found some information and shared it with me on my other recent thread, I am very grateful that you took the time to search it up.
So, although for some reason you seem to think that I'm 'hardly new to this', I am infact just starting out with it all. I hope that I soon get the opportunity to help others out with their research too.
I think your reply on this thread was quite uncalled for if I'm honest.
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And I kind of thought that the website was about people helping eachother in research and connecting through sharing information and helping eachother research? I've seen many people asking for others to do look ups on here.
That is precisely what the forum is about. Rootchatters will make every effort to help if possible.
However, when there is no response from you, we are left wondering why. There is no way we know if the help given has been of use, if there is more we can do, or if it is just a total waste of time.
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And I kind of thought that the website was about people helping eachother in research and connecting through sharing information and helping eachother research? I've seen many people asking for others to do look ups on here.
That is precisely what the forum is about. Rootchatters will make every effort to help if possible.
However, when there is no response from you, we are left wondering why. There is no way we know if the help given has been of use, if there is more we can do, or if it is just a total waste of time.
Well it certainly has been of use and is not a waste of time, very valuable information for me!
I just haven't had the chance to sit and read the replies on the threads properly until this moment.
But I really do appreciate all of the help and effort people put into helping others on here.
Apologies if it has taken me a while to give a response.
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CaroleW gave you details of the 1851 census for Thomas who was born in Wartling. You could use FreeReg
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
Put in Sussex, then select Wartling, search on surname Atwood with name soundex ticked and you will get many records to look at including the baptism of Thomas in 1784.
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Thank you I appreciate you sharing links with me, I will have a look at freereg :)
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Father Thomas Attwood is on the 1851 census - widower aged 67 occ Tailor - b Wartling.
Piece 1635/583/51
Looks like he died on 14.3.1867
South Eastern Advertiser, 16 Mar 1867
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Father Thomas Attwood is on the 1851 census - widower aged 67 occ Tailor - b Wartling.
Piece 1635/583/51
Looks like he died on 14.3.1867
South Eastern Advertiser, 16 Mar 1867
Thanks for sharing this Hanes 😁