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Title: Identify the first name
Post by: Andy_C on Wednesday 21 January 26 16:43 GMT (UK)
Can anyone identify the first name of this person please? Last name I'm sure is Arnold, the document is early 1800s
Title: Re: Identify the first name
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 21 January 26 17:03 GMT (UK)

Can we have a little more text and letters, please?
It's also very small at only 6.25kB.


Title: Re: Identify the first name
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 21 January 26 17:11 GMT (UK)
Just had a quick search and there are several records for Hattill Arnold - different people.
I thought it looked like that but wanted to check.
Title: Re: Identify the first name
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 22 January 26 02:12 GMT (UK)
I agree, Hattill ARNOLD. As Heywood says there are a few people of that name, sometimes Hattil (a male).
Title: Re: Identify the first name
Post by: LH on Thursday 22 January 26 08:23 GMT (UK)
Looks like Hattill to me too.

Regards
Title: Re: Identify the first name
Post by: Andy_C on Thursday 22 January 26 09:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks all.

This is an image with more text, and a couple of instances of the ? Arnold name.

The document is an Indenture, Names on it are Thomas Chilton (Grantor), Thomas Eagles Bartlett and ? Arnold (Grantees).

Unfortunately I had to photograph it through glass in its frame very quickly so the quality isn't great. I've run the image through ChatGPT to get a transcription but it struggles with some of the text, I'm trying to work my way through it but it's not easy, particularly as I'm not familiar with the old script and some of the terms used!
Title: Re: Identify the first name
Post by: heywood on Thursday 22 January 26 10:45 GMT (UK)
What is the date of the document?
Have you looked anywhere else for Hattill Arnold?

Added
Are you looking for more information re Mr Arnold or a ‘translation’ of the document?
Title: Re: Identify the first name
Post by: Andy_C on Thursday 22 January 26 11:23 GMT (UK)
Quote from: heywood on Thursday 22 January 26 10:45 GMT (UK)
What is the date of the document?
Have you looked anywhere else for Hattill Arnold?

The date is pretty illegible (see image - if anyone can decipher it I'd be most grateful!) but likely early 1800s.

I've found a marriage between a Hattill Arnold and Sarah Salmon in Banbury 11 Nov 1797, which is the right area and era - so sounds like that's the name.
Title: Re: Identify the first name
Post by: Raybistre on Thursday 22 January 26 11:37 GMT (UK)
Looks like its the forty fifth year of the reign of George III which is:
25 October 1804 til 24 October 1805
Ray
Title: Re: Identify the first name
Post by: Andy_C on Thursday 22 January 26 11:40 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Raybistre on Thursday 22 January 26 11:37 GMT (UK)
Looks like its the forty fifth year of the reign of George III which is:
25 October 1804 til 24 October 1805
Ray
Thanks, that makes sense. Does the date read "twelfth day of February"? Looks like it to me.
Title: Re: Identify the first name
Post by: Andy_C on Thursday 22 January 26 11:49 GMT (UK)
Quote from: heywood on Thursday 22 January 26 10:45 GMT (UK)
What is the date of the document?
Have you looked anywhere else for Hattill Arnold?

Added
Are you looking for more information re Mr Arnold or a ‘translation’ of the document?
Really I'd like a transcription of the document, as I mentioned, ChatGPT manages some of it and I'm struggling with the rest. Unfortunately I don't have access to the original document at the moment.

The background is that Thomas Chilton appears to have been the first owner of our local pub, around 1809. So this Indenture looks like the sale of his properties in the village, to Thomas Eagles Bartlett and Hattill Arnold, to possibly finance the purchase (or building) of the pub.
Title: Re: Identify the first name
Post by: Raybistre on Thursday 22 January 26 16:15 GMT (UK)
Yes the 12th of February which would be 1805.
Ray