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Hello
Apologies if I have posted in the wring area but I need some help tracing my great grandfather. All I know is that he had a son called Joseph Garside whose daughter was Doris Garside, my maternal grandmother, born on Jan 17 1916.
Any help in this area much appreciated.
Thank you.
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What area are we looking for?
There are 4 people named Doris Garside registered 1916 .
Only one in the March quarter with mother's maiden name Taylor
Ref FreeBMD
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www.freebmd.org.uk
Doris Garside was b West Yorks - mothers maiden name Taylor
Joseph Garside married Ann Taylor in West Yorks 1907
1911 census shows Joseph was b approx 1867 Low Moor Bradford
All censuses are free to search here
https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/collection/list?cqs=England+census&count=20
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My apologies yes Doris Garside born 17 Jan 1916 mother Ann Taylor. Doris lived in Spen Valley in Yorkshire.
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www.freebmd.org.uk
Doris Garside was b West Yorks - mothers maiden name Taylor
Joseph Garside married Ann Taylor in West Yorks 1907
1911 census shows Joseph was b approx 1867 Low Moor Bradford
All censuses are free to search here
https://www.familysearch.org/en/
search/collection/list?cqs=England+census&count=20
Thank you I was just wondering if there was any information available on George Joseph’s father as the trail goes cold after this. Thank you.
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Who is George Joseph??
You need to track Joseph b 1867 via the 1871 census onwards to get details of his parents
His birth reg is on freebmd - link shown above - GRO online shows his mmn as Woodhead
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
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Sorry that was my bad wording George Garside was Joseph Garside’s father.
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The marriage is on Ancestry :
Joseph GARSIDE 45 bachelor labourer , residing Clifton, father George GARSIDE occupation " Deputy "
Ann TAYLOR 33 spinster father Benjamin TAYLOR farmer
13 April 1907 at Cleckheaton, Whitechapel
witnesses Arthur Shackleton and Ethel Womersley
Not sure what is meant by Deputy ?
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The marriage is on Ancestry :
Joseph GARSIDE 45 bachelor labourer , residing Clifton, father George GARSIDE occupation " Deputy "
Ann TAYLOR 33 spinster father Benjamin TAYLOR farmer
13 April 1907 at Cleckheaton, Whitechapel
witnesses Arthur Shackleton and Ethel Womersley
Not sure what is meant by Deputy ?
Thank you that’s so useful.
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You can use the census link I gave to find him in 1871 onwards
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Have you looked into Nathan and Betty Garside and James and Sarah Garside who had children baptised 1865 the same time as George and Hannah - daughter Hannah at Bradford Chapelry.
They could be brothers or cousins
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Thank you I may have found something of great interest
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The marriage is on Ancestry :
Joseph GARSIDE 45 bachelor labourer , residing Clifton, father George GARSIDE occupation " Deputy "
Ann TAYLOR 33 spinster father Benjamin TAYLOR farmer
13 April 1907 at Cleckheaton, Whitechapel
witnesses Arthur Shackleton and Ethel Womersley
Not sure what is meant by Deputy ?
1881 census
George-Deputy Steward At Coalmine
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The marriage is on Ancestry :
Joseph GARSIDE 45 bachelor labourer , residing Clifton, father George GARSIDE occupation " Deputy "
Ann TAYLOR 33 spinster father Benjamin TAYLOR farmer
13 April 1907 at Cleckheaton, Whitechapel
witnesses Arthur Shackleton and Ethel Womersley
Not sure what is meant by Deputy ?
1881 census
George-Deputy Steward At Coalmine
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I appreciate this thank you
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Doris was a twin.
GARSIDE, DORIS TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1916 M Quarter in NORTH BIERLEY Volume 09B Page 7
GARSIDE, DOROTHY TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1916 M Quarter in NORTH BIERLEY Volume 09B Page 7
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Doris was a twin.
GARSIDE, DORIS TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1916 M Quarter in NORTH BIERLEY Volume 09B Page 7
GARSIDE, DOROTHY TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1916 M Quarter in NORTH BIERLEY Volume 09B Page 7
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Yep I met Dorothy a long time ago when she was in Yorkshire - I remember very little about the visit.
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Joseph GARSIDE
Baptism at Low Moor, Holy Trinity. 16 Jan 1862 (born 1 Oct 1861)
Son of George and Hannah
Abode – Wyke. Occupation – miner
Birth REGO
GARSIDE, JOSEPH Mother - ASQUITH
GRO Reference: 1861 D Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 3
1861 census Garside family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M78C-QPG?lang=en
1871 census Garside family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZGF-WFD?lang=en
1881 census Garside family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27R-PLN9?lang=en
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1851 census George Garside (with parents)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SPMZ-WP9?lang=en
1841 census George Garside (with parents)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQP1-WM7?lang=en
George Garside baptism 3 Nov 1822 Low Moor, Holy Trinity
Son of Samuel and Maria (miner)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NR3L-X55?lang=en
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Marriage Banns 28 Dec 1819 Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Samuel Garside of this parish, miner
Maria Ledgard of this parish, spinster
Burial details -
In memory of the late SAMUEL GARSIDE who died Sepr 12th 1865 aged 67 years.
Also MARIA GARSIDE wife of the above who departed this life Octr 30th 1869 aged 68 years.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/203116518/samuel-garside
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Can I just say I am really appreciative of all the new information you have provided me based on your advice as I am not too familiar with this I did a search and discovered Samuel and Maria and as some of the information I have received confirms these two particular individuals I have tens to felt added this to my family tree. For some reason when onto my great grandfather Joseph it broke down but thanks to you great people I was able to work back further - bless you.
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Has anyone found a marriage for George Garside and Hannah Asquith? Assuming she was a spinster and Samuel Asquith was illegitimate.
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I think Hannah Asquith is illegitimate daghter of Martha Asquith and granddaughter of Sparling Asquith and has a brother / half brother Daniel Asquith.
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Thank you for your help it’s so much appreciated. So far I have starting from my maternal Grandmother thanks to you all
Grandmother : Doris Garside born 17 Jan 1916 Spen Valley Yorkshire
Great Grandfather : Joseph Garside both appx 1882 Spouse Ann Taylor
Great Great Grandfather : George Garside Spouse Hannah Asquith
Great Great Grandfather : Samuel Garside Spouse Maria Garside
I tried going back beyond Samuel but that is proving quite tough there is a possibility his father was possibly James Garside but I haven’t added anything beyond Samuel for now but that said, thank you so much for all this information - you’ve helped to overcome a significant brick wall.
I apologise if I do anything wrong in my writings as I am only very much an amateur at trying genealogy.
Many Thanks
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It looks like Maria's maiden name was Ledgard - reply #18.
Now to find Samuel's parents..
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It looks like Maria's maiden name was Ledgard - reply #18.
Now to find Samuel's parents..
Thank you I saw Ledgard and wondered but I struggled to find much beyond Samuel. I did find sone possibilities but it was a bit complex and not clear enough to make a confident decision on census searches.
Any help,on Samuel’s parents would be much appreciated.
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Marriage Banns 28 Dec 1819 Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Samuel Garside of this parish, miner
Maria Ledgard of this parish, spinster
Marriage image on Ancestry same date as Banns at Bradford St Peter
winesses John Barker, Jonas Tasker
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From census age samuel born about 1798-9 at North Bierley
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Marriage Banns 28 Dec 1819 Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Samuel Garside of this parish, miner
Maria Ledgard of this parish, spinster
Marriage image on Ancestry same date as Banns at Bradford St Peter
winesses John Barker, Jonas Tasker
Thank you it’s finding information on Samuel’s parents that is proving very tough but trying my best as I say I did a census search but the results were inconclusive sadly but I’ll keep at it.
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From census age samuel born about 1798-9 at North Bierley
Thank you it’s just becoming a bit complex after this what I found was possibilities (about three - one may have been the same as the other) but one wasn’t near a particular location I think one was Bradford and the other I can’t recall just currently. Nevertheless on the entries I looked at there was a possibility it may have been James, Samuel’s father, but I wasn’t conclusive on this so I didn’t add it to the tree.
With the information I have received from kind people here, I am confident that the lineage from Joseph Garside to Samuel Garside is promising.
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There's a Wibsey baptism which looks promising.
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There's a Wibsey baptism which looks promising.
Thank you I really appreciate this.
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Have you looked into Nathan and Betty Garside and James and Sarah Garside who had children baptised 1865 the same time as George and Hannah - daughter Hannah at Bradford Chapelry.
They could be brothers or cousins
Pursuing the Garsides of Wisey, I have found a burial for a James s/o Nathan in Wibsey in 1797. So maybe the later Nathan, mentioned above, was part of the same family.
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Have you looked into Nathan and Betty Garside and James and Sarah Garside who had children baptised 1865 the same time as George and Hannah - daughter Hannah at Bradford Chapelry.
They could be brothers or cousins
Pursuing the Garsides of Wisey, I have found a burial for a James s/o Nathan in Wibsey in 1797. So maybe the later Nathan, mentioned above, was part of the same family.
Thank you
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Possible for elderly Nathan in 1851
Piece 2304
Folio 272
Page number 4
B abt 1770, matches well with baptism in Wibsey s/o Stephen. Maybe James (Samuel's father) was Nathan's brother
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Possible for elderly Nathan in 1851
Piece 2304
Folio 272
Page number 4
B abt 1770, matches well with baptism in Wibsey s/o Stephen. Maybe James (Samuel's father) was Nathan's brother
Thank you I really appreciate this could James be Samuel’s father? When I did a search it was only a tentative name that I found which is why I didn’t add it to the tree - I do apologise as I am very new to this so I do apologise for my iginorance as I.m still very much learning.
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Yes I think that Samuel's father might be James. Annoyingly mother wasn't recorded on baptism record. Tracing possibly siblings of Samuel and looking for marriage records might be useful in case Samuel was a witness somewhere. Unfortunately he marked his own marriage record with X so we won't have signatures to compare.
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Yes I think that Samuel's father might be James. Annoyingly mother wasn't recorded on baptism record. Tracing possibly siblings of Samuel and looking for marriage records might be useful in case Samuel was a witness somewhere. Unfortunately he marked his own marriage record with X so we won't have signatures to compare.
Thank you I’m trying to search for baptisms thus far not much luck
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Thank you I have added in James tentatively as being the father of Samuel as it does seem to fit having done further searches and from what you found I am so appreciative.
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I just wanted to say (sorry for carrying on) that I am now almost certain James was Samuel’s father based on the family search information. Once more, thank you so much for your help to be able to use that information to find James. I am so appreciative.