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Title: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: Widget2k13 on Saturday 03 January 26 15:03 GMT (UK)
Hello everyone,

I am looking for help tracing a man named John Barnard Johnson, who I believe was born around 1851 in Sweden and later moved to the UK.

Here is what I know so far:

Name: John Barnard Johnson
Approx. birth year: c.1851
Place of birth: Sweden (as listed on later UK records)
Residence in Wales: Pontypool area, Monmouthshire
Marriage: Married Mary Elizabeth Davies (or Davis) in 1883
Had multiple children including Olive E Johnson

I am hoping to find:
• His exact birthplace in Sweden
• His parents’ names
• Any records of his arrival in the UK
• Any early census entries before his marriage
• Any clues about his occupation or reasons for coming to Wales
• Any records of the Johnson/Davies family in the Pontypool area

If anyone has access to Swedish parish indexes, migration records, or local Monmouthshire resources, I would be very grateful for any help or guidance.

Thank you for your time.

Leo
 :)
Title: Re: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 03 January 26 15:12 GMT (UK)
Just posting marriage registration index details

Dec qtr 1883   
Davies    Mary Elizabeth       
Johnson    John Barnard       
Newport, M. reg disrtict    11a   332

The marriage certificate should show his occupation and name his father
Title: Re: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 03 January 26 15:37 GMT (UK)

The 1921 census gives details of his place of birth and his age in years and months.

What was his occupation on the 1881, 1891 etc census.

Title: Re: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 03 January 26 15:50 GMT (UK)
Information would need to be verified there is a public tree on Anc* y if you have access with a lot of info including some pictures

JOHN BARNARD (JOHAN BERNARD BORGSTROM) JOHNSON
BIRTH 22 APR 1851 SKOLLUNGEN, Brastad, Västra Götaland, Sweden
DEATH 17 JUL 1928  8 WAUNFELIN, Abersychan, Monmouthshire, Wales

Parents

JOHAN ADOLF BORGSTROM
BIRTH 26 APR 1818  SKOLLUNGEN, Brastad, Västra Götaland, Sweden
DEATH 6 JUL 1887 SKOLLUNGEN, Brastad, Västra Götaland, Sweden

Anna Lovisa Larsdotter
Born 10 MAR 1825 ANGARD, Brastad, Västra Götaland, Sweden
Died 24/01/1895 SKOLLUNGEN, Brastad, Västra Götaland, Sweden

This transcript is on Anc*y Sweden, Select Baptisms, 1611-1909

Johan Bernhard Borgstrom
Birth Date   22 apr. 1851 (22 Apr 1851)
Baptism Date   27 apr. 1851 (27 Apr 1851)
Baptism Place   Brastad, Goteborg Och Bohus, Sweden
Residence Date   1851
Residence Place   Brastad, Göteborg och Bohus, Sweden
Father   Joh. Ad. Borgstrom
Mother   Anna Lovisa Larsdr
FHL Film Number   13271







Title: Re: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 03 January 26 15:58 GMT (UK)
1891 he's listed as Johan. A railway signal fitter. Place of birth Bohuhs....

1901 and 1911 his occupation is again related to railway signals

Noting that his mother in law is Mary Jane Heard rather than Davies - I guess she may have remarried at some point
Title: Re: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 03 January 26 16:06 GMT (UK)

Noting that his mother in law is Mary Jane Heard rather than Davies - I guess she may have remarried at some point

Well spotted Mabel  :)

Maybe this marriage

1st July 1867 LLantarnan
Robert Heard 38 a widower occ Hawker father William Heard a Labourer
married
Mary Jane Davies 39 a widow father William Trewartha  a Steward
Title: Re: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 03 January 26 16:12 GMT (UK)

Noting that his mother in law is Mary Jane Heard rather than Davies - I guess she may have remarried at some point

Well spotted Mabel  :)

Maybe this marriage

1st July 1867 LLantarnan
Robert Heard 38 a widower occ Hawker father William Heard a Labourer
married
Mary Jane Davies 39 a widow father William Trewartha a Steward

Her first marriage can be viewed on Anc* y

Herbert Davies, blacksmith
Marriage Date   19 Feb 1849
Marriage Place   Bedminster, St John, Bristol, England
Father    Herbert Davies, mason
Spouse   Mary Trewartha father William, Inspec. of Police


Title: Re: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 03 January 26 16:14 GMT (UK)
Very likely - there's births for some of the Davies children with Trewartha as a middle name. including Mary Elizabeth

The Heards settled in Merthyr. Robert is in the workhouse in 1891 when Mary the mother in law is with the Johnsons

Title: Re: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 03 January 26 16:33 GMT (UK)
1861

Piece   4020
Folio   71
Page number   41

Herbert Davies 35 Head
Mary Jane Davies 30   Wife
Herbert Willm Davies 11 Son
Henry Davies 9 Son
Mary Elizth Davies 3 Daughter
**Tom Davies 3 Son

**DAVIES, THOM       TREWERTHA 
GRO Reference: 1861  M Quarter in NEWPORT  Volume 11A  Page 171

DAVIES, HERBERT  WILLIAM     mmnTREWARTHA 
GRO Reference: 1850  M Quarter in WOLSTANTON AND BURSLEM UNION  Volume 17  Page 288

Parents married 19th February 1849 Bedminster.---image available on Ancestry.

SS
Title: Re: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 03 January 26 16:35 GMT (UK)
Johan Bernhard
Relationship   Son
Residence Age   20
Birth Date   22 apr. 1851 (22 Apr 1851)
Year range   1871-1880
Residence Place   Brastad, Göteborg och Bohus (Göteborg), Sverige (Sweden)
Village, Farm, or Croft   Sköllungen Skatte
Date Moved Out of Parish   1879
Occupation   Sjöman
Household Members (Name)   
Johan Adolf Bärgström Head
Anna Lovisa Larsdtr  (Wife)

Sjoman" is the Swedish word for "sailor" or "seaman"

The public tree has John & Mary’s marriage certificate

1883 Married in The Registry Office by licence

John Bernard Johnson 30 Seaman Father Oliver Johnson carpenter  :-\

Mary Elizabeth Davies  24 Father David deceased
amendment made at side for David read Herbert




Title: Re: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: jamcat95 on Monday 05 January 26 14:54 GMT (UK)
1891 he's listed as Johan. A railway signal fitter. Place of birth Bohuhs....

1901 and 1911 his occupation is again related to railway signals

Noting that his mother in law is Mary Jane Heard rather than Davies - I guess she may have remarried at some point

Hi
I am trying to find this John here in Sweden. The only census records I can find are of a John/Johan coming form Norway. Can someone please give me the links to these censuses. I only have FamilySearch.
Thank you.
I have traced the Johan from Sköllungen but I need more info.

Ian



Title: Re: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: softly softly on Monday 05 January 26 15:02 GMT (UK)
Ian, if you only have familysearch then sending links will only give you transcripts, not images. Do you still want them?

SS
Title: Re: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: jamcat95 on Monday 05 January 26 15:07 GMT (UK)
Yes please. It's better than nothing.
Thank you.

Ian

Title: Re: Seeking help tracing John Barnard Johnson (born 1851 Sweden, later in Pontypool)
Post by: jamcat95 on Tuesday 06 January 26 13:58 GMT (UK)
Ian, if you only have familysearch then sending links will only give you transcripts, not images. Do you still want them?

SS

Thank you softly softly.
I think it's strange that he has stated that he was born in Norway on 2 of the censuses.

Ian