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Title: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: mirrin on Friday 02 January 26 15:20 GMT (UK)
I am researching James Heron artist. I located his birth certificate and he was born 27th June 1847 in the Parish of St Cuthberts Edinburgh.  Parents William Heron and Mary Brown.  I am unable to find his death certificate on SP and he may have died circa 1919.  I believe he always lived in Edinburgh and he may have been unmarried,  I have him on a census in 1891 age 44 living with his sister Clara at 64 Frederick Street.  In 1901 he is living at 1 Warrender Park Terrace with his brother Colin and a sister called Martha.  He painted lots of Scottish landscapes.
I am struggling to find death certificate for him. I welcome any help.
Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 02 January 26 15:25 GMT (UK)
Have you looked at this one S P
James Heron age 80 died 1928 Morningside
Mothers maiden name Brown

Rosie
Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: mirrin on Friday 02 January 26 15:29 GMT (UK)
Ah, thank you, will do.

Mirrin
Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 02 January 26 15:35 GMT (UK)
Probate index
James Heron artist of 7, Warrender Park Edinburgh
Died 6 th March 1928
Confirmation 20 March to his brother Charles Millar Heron sister Clara Heron both of the same address
Will dated 7 January
Value of estate £499.1.11

Rosie
Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: mirrin on Friday 02 January 26 15:49 GMT (UK)
Got the death certificate, thanks.  Interesting to have details of the will.   Where did you access it as I have long been looking for a will for another ancestor with no luck.

Can you confirm the sum of money in the will please.

Mirrin
Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 02 January 26 17:22 GMT (UK)
Scotland  National Probate Index ( Confirmations and Inventories ) on Ancestry
Value of estate is £499.1 shilling and 11 pence

 Not seeing anything on S P
You could try Registers of Scotland


Rosie
Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: mirrin on Saturday 03 January 26 10:11 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all the information, very helpful.

Mirrin
Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 03 January 26 10:54 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all the information, very helpful.

Mirrin

Your welcome ;)

Rosie
Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: Lodger on Sunday 04 January 26 09:19 GMT (UK)
From the Dictionary of British Artists 1880 - 1940.

HERON James. Exhibited 1880 - 1919.
Abode Edinburgh. Deceased.
Glasgow Institute of the Fine Arts = 7 works.
Royal Scottish Academy = 105 works.


Not a big entry, from a commercial point of view. I wouldn't imagine any of his works making a fortune.
Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: dowdstree on Sunday 04 January 26 12:08 GMT (UK)
Scottish Wills are only available to view online up to 1925.

Dorrie
Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 04 January 26 14:34 GMT (UK)
Scottish Wills are only available to view online up to 1925.

Dorrie

Thanks Dorrie  :)

Rosie
Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: eilthireach on Sunday 04 January 26 15:49 GMT (UK)
Probate index
James Heron artist of 7, Warrender Park Edinburgh
Died 6 th March 1928
Confirmation 20 March to his brother Charles Millar Heron sister Clara Heron both of the same address
Will dated 7 January
Value of estate £499.1.11

Rosie

Sorry, that's not an exact transcription. Here it is:

"HERON, James, Artist, 7 Warrender Park Crescent, Edinburgh, died 6 March 1928 at Edinburgh, testate. Confirmation Edinburgh, 20 March, to Charles Millar Heron, his brother, and Clara Heron, his sister, both of 7 Warrender Park Crescent aforesaid, Executors. Will dated 7 January recorded Edinburgh 19 March 1928.  Value of Estate, £449. 1.11"

Note: full address is 7 Warrender Park Crescent, and value of estate is £449, not £499

£449 was quite a lot of money. The CPI Inflation Calculator calculates that as equivalent to £36,046.63 in 2025! (and the Measuringworth.com site shows something close to that amount  (https://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ukcompare/relativevalue.php?use%5B%5D=CPI&use%5B%5D=WAGE&year_early=1928&pound71=449&shilling71=&pence71=&amount=449&year_source=1928&year_result=2025)
Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: dowdstree on Sunday 04 January 26 17:37 GMT (UK)
For information regarding Scottish Wills -

Wills registered between 1925 and 1999 have not been digitised and may only be consulted in the Historical Search Room at National Records of Scotland. The printed calendar of Confirmation is the yearly Index to these Wills.
Wills from 2000 have not yet been transferred to NRS. For further information you should contact The Commissary Department, Edinburgh Sheriff Court, 27 Chambers Street, Edinburgh.

The Index is what appears on Ancestry.

Also in Scotland there is no such thing as Probate. It is called Confirmation.

Hope someone may find this useful.

Dorrie



Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 04 January 26 17:44 GMT (UK)
Probate index
James Heron artist of 7, Warrender Park Edinburgh
Died 6 th March 1928
Confirmation 20 March to his brother Charles Millar Heron sister Clara Heron both of the same address
Will dated 7 January
Value of estate £499.1.11

Rosie

Sorry, that's not an exact transcription. Here it is:

"HERON, James, Artist, 7 Warrender Park Crescent, Edinburgh, died 6 March 1928 at Edinburgh, testate. Confirmation Edinburgh, 20 March, to Charles Millar Heron, his brother, and Clara Heron, his sister, both of 7 Warrender Park Crescent aforesaid, Executors. Will dated 7 January recorded Edinburgh 19 March 1928.  Value of Estate, £449. 1.11"

Note: full address is 7 Warrender Park Crescent, and value of estate is £449, not £499

£449 was quite a lot of money. The CPI Inflation Calculator calculates that as equivalent to £36,046.63 in 2025! (and the Measuringworth.com site shows something close to that amount  (https://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ukcompare/relativevalue.php?use%5B%5D=CPI&use%5B%5D=WAGE&year_early=1928&pound71=449&shilling71=&pence71=&amount=449&year_source=1928&year_result=2025)

Yes I just put in the basic information regarding his sister and brother and address  ;)

Rosie
Title: Re: James Heron RSA help please
Post by: eilthireach on Sunday 04 January 26 18:38 GMT (UK)
Probate index
James Heron artist of 7, Warrender Park Edinburgh
Died 6 th March 1928
Confirmation 20 March to his brother Charles Millar Heron sister Clara Heron both of the same address
Will dated 7 January
Value of estate £499.1.11

Rosie

Sorry, that's not an exact transcription. Here it is:

"HERON, James, Artist, 7 Warrender Park Crescent, Edinburgh, died 6 March 1928 at Edinburgh, testate. Confirmation Edinburgh, 20 March, to Charles Millar Heron, his brother, and Clara Heron, his sister, both of 7 Warrender Park Crescent aforesaid, Executors. Will dated 7 January recorded Edinburgh 19 March 1928.  Value of Estate, £449. 1.11"

Note: full address is 7 Warrender Park Crescent, and value of estate is £449, not £499

£449 was quite a lot of money. The CPI Inflation Calculator calculates that as equivalent to £36,046.63 in 2025! (and the Measuringworth.com site shows something close to that amount  (https://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ukcompare/relativevalue.php?use%5B%5D=CPI&use%5B%5D=WAGE&year_early=1928&pound71=449&shilling71=&pence71=&amount=449&year_source=1928&year_result=2025)

Yes I just put in the basic information regarding his sister and brother and address  ;)

Rosie

Yes, that may have been your intention, but you got it wrong. You misquoted the address! There is no place Warrender Park. It's Warrender Park Crescent or Warrender Park Terrace (where we lived when I was younger). You also misquoted the value of his estate. People who are researching family history need full factual information, not misleading incomplete transcriptions. The original poster might not have access to the source you got your reference from. We don't know what resources a poster can easily access. (You say you just put in the basic information regarding his sister and brother and address - it's for the original poster to decide what information in the resource is useful).