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Title: Mary A. Devenport
Post by: Siely on Wednesday 31 December 25 12:41 GMT (UK)
Mary A. Devenport   ,  General Servant of 51 Queen Street. Wigan in 1871 Census (has 2 year old son or younger sibling Robert with her)

Head of the household is Mary Ann Alker born 1835 , Shopkeeper at 51 Queen Street  Wigan.

Mary Ann Alker lists Mary A. Devenport as a Cousin .

(Mary Ann Alker's parents are James Alker of Haigh , Lancs.and Charlotte Corless of Dalton, Lancs.) This is an error should be Ann Simkin as wife, see later posts.

Can you help me find a Devenport marriage amongst the siblings of either James Alker or Charlotte Corless ? Thank you.



 
Title: Re: Mary A. Devenport
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 31 December 25 12:57 GMT (UK)



https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Baptism 28 Aug 1868 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire
Robert James Devenport  child of Mary Ann Devenport
Born: 4 Aug       Abode: 51 Queen St.       Occupation: Domestic Servant
Baptised By: A. H. Hodd, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1868, Page 398, Entry 3180
Source: LDS Film 1885683
Title: Re: Mary A. Devenport
Post by: Siely on Wednesday 31 December 25 13:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks wivenhoe .
Title: Re: Mary A. Devenport
Post by: Siely on Wednesday 31 December 25 15:42 GMT (UK)
With ref to post one

"Can you help me find a Devenport marriage amongst the siblings of either James Alker or Charlotte Corless ? Thank you."

Can you at least advise on the most efficient way to do this ?

Title: Re: Mary A. Devenport
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 31 December 25 16:43 GMT (UK)
Can you please list the names of these siblings of James Alker and Charlotte Corless
Title: Re: Mary A. Devenport
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 31 December 25 18:49 GMT (UK)
You could check these records:
From a published tree and Lancs opc
Mary Ann Devenport baptised 1850 - parents James and Ann

Marriage - 1843 - Hindley
James Davenport and Ann Simkin

Baptism - 1823 Ann Simkin with parents David and Mary

Baptism - 1812 Ellen - parents David and Mary - Burtonwood

Marriage - 1834
Ellen Simkin and John Alker, Upholland

Baptism - 1835
Mary Ann Alker - parents John and Ellen, Wigan

Ellen Alker is then widowed and marries James Linney in 1839 - you can check the censuses.

This isn't the information you have about Mary Ann Alker so you will need to check it out as you have different parents.
Title: Re: Mary A. Devenport
Post by: Siely on Wednesday 31 December 25 23:07 GMT (UK)
Thank you Heywood.  A great help.
I'm establishing the cousin link between Mary Ann Alker and Mary Ann Devenport (and is 2 year old Robert her son or younger brother ?) see post 1

(happy new year to you all)
Title: Re: Mary A. Devenport
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 31 December 25 23:13 GMT (UK)
I thought I had shown that possibility with the two sisters, Ellen and Ann Simkin who would be the mothers to the two Mary Anns.
However, you have Charlotte Corless as Mary Ann Alker’s mother.

Title: Re: Mary A. Devenport
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 31 December 25 23:26 GMT (UK)
Wivenhoe posted the baptism of Robert with Mary Ann as his mother.
If you look through the censuses, Mary Ann Alker uses the surname Linney in 1851.
In 1881, Robert is listed as cousin to Mary Ann Alker and her stepfather,James Linney is living with her too.
The residence through all censuses is Queen Street.
This confirms the cousin relationship, I think.
Title: Re: Mary A. Devenport
Post by: Siely on Thursday 01 January 26 08:27 GMT (UK)
Heywood , thank you for your help and spotting my error which came from a mixing different Mary Ann Alkers. The 1871 census info in post 1 is the one due to 2 year old Robert being resident.

Title: Re: Mary A. Devenport
Post by: heywood on Thursday 01 January 26 08:43 GMT (UK)
That’s good that you have the correct Mary Ann.
Yes, I found them in 1871 as you say.
I am still not sure if you have followed my discoveries and reasoning. Apologies if you have.
Robert is still with Mary Ann Alker in 1881. I thought you would already have seen that and as I wrote, there is also the clue with her stepfather being there also.
Hopefully all is resolved now.
Title: Re: Mary A. Devenport
Post by: Siely on Thursday 01 January 26 13:25 GMT (UK)
Yes, thank you I'm now happy I have identified the right Robert from several possibilities. Thank you for your help.
Title: Re: Mary A. Devenport
Post by: heywood on Thursday 01 January 26 14:07 GMT (UK)
Great news.
Happy New Year to you and yours.