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Title: More about William Hulstone 1851 in Broad Eye, Staffs
Post by: ValJJJ on Tuesday 30 December 25 20:02 GMT (UK)
In the 1851 census, William Hulstone is shown at 46 Broad Eye, single, 34 (so born abt 1817), a shoe maker, a lodger, born Market Drayton, Salop.  In the household of Ann Tildesley, head, widow, 68, pauper, born Colton, Staffs and Samuel Cooper, lodger, 28, shoe maker, born Stafford.

Also, in the 1851 poll book, William is shown 'of Broad Eye' as an eligible voter due to two freehold houses, occupied/tenanted (?) by Richard Weston and Isaac Devell (who presumably is 1877-1861). I can't find Richard Weston.

In the 1851 census, widowed Margaret Bannister with Catherine and Isaac Deavall/oll were at 48 Broad Eye, living with Isaac, 64, (i.e. the 1877-1861 Isaac) and Jane (his second wife) Deavole.  I have found out a lot about this family so please don't spend time on them.

Re William Hulstone,  I've found a possible baptism in 1817 with parents William and Elizabeth nee Dean.  And found sisters Elizabeth born 1812 and Ann (1819-27).  Are there any other children? Elizabeth might have married Joseph Higgins in 1838 in Market Drayton. Did they have children? 

In 1861 census he's in Nantwich, a boarder, 44, cordwainer. in the Hollowood household.

In 1871 census he's at 8 Broad Eye, lodger with the Meddings household.

1881 census he's in 22 Cherry St, Stafford, single, 64, cordwainer.

I can't find him in the 1841 census, or after 1881, haven't found a marriage, or a death, looking for Hulston(e) or Houlston. He hasn't popped up in the newspaper archive (BNA) either.

You are all much better at searching than me so I hope you can find more please.
Title: Re: More about William Hulstone 1851 in Broad Eye, Staffs
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 31 December 25 05:20 GMT (UK)
I noticed in 1851 he was a Shoe Maker living at St Mary, Stafford  and I wonder if this is him in 1841 living at Broad Eye, St Mary, Stafford

Wm   Hurlstone   20   Shoe M Staffordshire
Ellen Beckett 15   Staffordshire
Mary   Beckett   50  Staffordshire

Kay

Added In 1844 Ellen Beckett married George Ellsmore a Shoemaker in St Marys, Stafford - her father listed as William Beckett - shoe maker.  The couple were living with family and mother in law Mary Beckett in 1851 and 1861
Title: Re: More about William Hulstone 1851 in Broad Eye, Staffs
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 31 December 25 06:49 GMT (UK)
In 1881 William was lodging with Joseph and Elizabeth Nicklin.   I noticed the death of a William Hulston in 1896 in Stafford age 80 and checked it on the GRO Death Index 

I attach the image which I might have dismissed with the different occupation but I noticed the informant was Elizabeth Nicklin of Cherry Street!!

Title: Re: More about William Hulstone 1851 in Broad Eye, Staffs
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 31 December 25 07:05 GMT (UK)
1891 - 22 Cherry St Stafford   - William's age is listed as 26 on the image - maybe an enumerator mistake  :-\

Joseph Nicklin   42   Shoe finisher   Stafford
Elizabeth   Nicklin   44 - Stafford
Many children
William   Hulston   Lodger Single 26 Coal dealer   Market Drayton, StaffordshirStafford

Added - Joseph Nicklin married Elizabeth Cartwright on 18 Sept 1869 in Stafford and her father is listed as James Cartwright
Title: Re: More about William Hulstone 1851 in Broad Eye, Staffs
Post by: ValJJJ on Wednesday 31 December 25 09:23 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much Kay99. It looks like you’ve cracked it. His Market Drayton birthplace certainly helps but I still didn’t spot those entries.

Broad Eye was a cluster of houses that were mostly occupied by shoe workers.

Presumably as a single man, it was usual to lodge with a family where he’d be provided with meals. As he owned two houses he must have had a reasonable income. I wonder if he appeared later in electoral registers?

I also wonder about his wider family back in the Market Drayton area.

Title: Re: More about William Hulstone 1851 in Broad Eye, Staffs
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 31 December 25 10:00 GMT (UK)
I must admit that I only found him in 1891 through the Nicklin family.   He may have known the family prior to lodging with them as they were all originally Shoemakers

Will relook at the Market Drayton side of his family but from a brief initial look didn't see any siblings
Title: Re: More about William Hulstone 1851 in Broad Eye, Staffs
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 31 December 25 10:10 GMT (UK)
Found a possible parents marriage on F M P

William Hulstone - Elizabeth Dean
Drayton in Hales - 27 August 1811
Both signed their names - Witnesses John Foden - Elizabeth Bruce
Title: Re: More about William Hulstone 1851 in Broad Eye, Staffs
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 31 December 25 10:28 GMT (UK)
Helps to realise that Market Drayton was also known as Drayton in Hales  :)  Also found the two siblings you found below but haven't found others at the moment either

Elizabeth Hulstones  18 Sept 1812 Parents Wm  - Eliz - Drayton in Hales

Ann Hulsones 1 March 1819 Parents Wm - Eliz  - Bricklayer - Drayton in Hales
Title: Re: More about William Hulstone 1851 in Broad Eye, Staffs
Post by: ValJJJ on Wednesday 31 December 25 10:36 GMT (UK)
I did see Drayton in Hales - that explains it!

Tx for finding the family and confirming the info.

I think shoe making was an extremely common occupation, similar to agricultural labourer, but certainly Broad Eye was a concentration of them.
Title: Re: More about William Hulstone 1851 in Broad Eye, Staffs
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 31 December 25 12:56 GMT (UK)
There is a burial that may be relevant

William Hulston Age 49 Address Drayton

Burial 12 Mar 1827 Drayton in Hales

Can't see his wife's burial at the moment
Title: Re: More about William Hulstone 1851 in Broad Eye, Staffs
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 31 December 25 13:54 GMT (UK)
You were also interested in possible children of Joseph Higgins and Elizabeth Hulston who married in 1838.

Their first child Margaret Higgins b 1839 and baptised Childs Ercall died the same year and the next child that I can see is

HIGGINS, WILLIAM  HULSTONE   mmn HULSTONE     
GRO Ref: 1844  D Qtr in NEWPORT, SALOP & STAFFORDSHIRE  Vol 18  Page 126

William Helston Higgins
Baptism Date    5 Jan 1845 Child's Ercall
Parents Joseph and Elizabeth Higgins

However I think this is Elizabeth and family in 1851 when she was a widow and includes an additional son Joseph living in Church Ercall

Elizabeth Higgins 38 Widow  National School Mistress  b Drayton, Salop
Joseph Higgins  9 b Chetwynd, Salop
William Higgins    4 b Chetwynd, Salop

This looks like the birth reg of Joseph

HIGGENS, JOSEPH  HURKSTONE   mmn HURKSTONE     
GRO Ref 1841  D Qtr NEWPORT SALOP & STAFFORDSHIRE  Vol 18  Page 124

And 1841 - Living at Howle Pool, Chetwynd, Newport,

Joseph   Higgins   25   Ag Lab
Elizabeth   Higgins   25   
Title: Re: More about William Hulstone 1851 in Broad Eye, Staffs
Post by: ValJJJ on Wednesday 31 December 25 14:47 GMT (UK)
That’s brilliant thank you.

I was hoping there were family descendants somewhere. If the line persisted to now then possibly someone will DNA test, which might confirm that my ancestor Job Hulstone Bannister of Broad Eye was William’s son. Harriet Lees married Isaac Devall Bannister of Broad Eye when 7 months pregnant with Job.  She was 18 when they married. I have plenty of info on them.

The Bannisters, Devalls and Lees families were all in Broad Eye for a number of censuses. Also some were in Broad St and Cherry St. at different times.
Title: Re: More about William Hulstone 1851 in Broad Eye, Staffs
Post by: ValJJJ on Wednesday 31 December 25 17:48 GMT (UK)
1901 census - the Nicklins were back in Broad Eye.
1911 - Elizabeth Nicklin widow inmate, workhouse, and died 1912.