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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: ashtayl04 on Tuesday 30 December 25 09:06 GMT (UK)
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Hello Everyone, was hoping someone with higher expertise might be able to de-bunk this mystery,
So i have an Edward Freeman, Butcher born Roughly 1776 and Died Mar 1845 in Hawkell Marrying an Amelia Matilda Magee (Widow) in Rochford, Essex on the 29th June 1816 witnessed by James Liverman & i can’t transcribe the second witness,
I would like to know what Amelia Matilda’s Maiden name was, it said that she was a member of that parish where it says widow, To me Magee sounds like an Irish Surname? 🤔 can’t be too sure however
Thanks!
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I note the marriage banns you mention on Freereg, but are you sure about the death of Edward?
Edward FREEMAN, single to Matilda MAGEE widow
Marriage 17 Jun 1816 Rochford : St Andrew : Parish Register
Witness: James LIVERMORE, Samuel? HUNT
Note Banns
FREEMAN, EDWARD Died age 32
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in ROCHFORD UNION Volume 12 Page 151
Edward FREEMAN Burial 3 Feb 1845, age 32
Rochford : St Andrew : Parish Register
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1841 census: Matilda 50
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ28-BYJ?lang=en
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Death of Matilda but no alternative for Edward?
FREEMAN, AMELIA MATILDA
66
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in ROCHFORD UNION Volume 12 Page 165
Colin
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I’ve just noticed what you mean, with Edward dying in his 30s and Matilda Dying in her 60s surely something isn’t right 🤔 the death registration i have for Amelia Matilda doesn’t note a family member registering it either 🤔
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Note that Amelia Matilda’s Death Reg also says wife of edward freeman, not widow, so edward must have died later?
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There is an Edward Freeman in 1851 living in Hadeleigh aged 75, Widowed, i can’s transcribe his occupation, looks like it says molecatcher? Haha born in Stock,
Lodger Joseph Bell
Ann (do)
Harriet Dau 4
Joseph son 1 mth (poss Lodgers Children)
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Can confirm the 1859 Death Reg Union Workhouse Rochford, Edward Freeman Butcher is Correct
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There is a marriage at Messing, Essex on 16 Dec 1804 between a Matilda Mills and a Robert Magee
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They’re is a Daughter of Amelia Matilda
Matilda Freeman Est Birth 1812 and She Died 1852 in Pitsea
She was Married to George Shead in 23/07/1842 in Hawkwell, she doesn’t appear on that 1841 census with Edward and Amelia Matilda but having said Edward and Amelia Matilda married 20/06/1816 this would make this Matilda Illigitimate? Or the possible daughter of this Magee bloke with Amelia Matilda’s Maiden Name?
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There is a marriage at Messing, Essex on 16 Dec 1804 between a Matilda Mills and a Robert Magee
Where did you find this record please?
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There is a marriage at Messing, Essex on 16 Dec 1804 between a Matilda Mills and a Robert Magee
Where did you find this record please?
The transcript is on FindMyPast, both were single.
Is it only the death record for Amelia Matilda Freeman that mentions the name Amelia, if not where else is it mentioned
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What are your thoughts on the above theory regarding Amelia Matilda’s Daughter Matilda, born before her marriage to edward freeman?
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They’re is a Daughter of Amelia Matilda
Matilda Freeman Est Birth 1812 and She Died 1852 in Pitsea
She was Married to George Shead in 23/07/1842 in Hawkwell, she doesn’t appear on that 1841 census with Edward and Amelia Matilda but having said Edward and Amelia Matilda married 20/06/1816 this would make this Matilda Illigitimate? Or the possible daughter of this Magee bloke with Amelia Matilda’s Maiden Name?
It looks as though that Matilda Freeman was possibly baptised late on 16 Jul 1837 at Hockley - parents Edward Freeman occ Butcher and mother Matilda.
The 1851 for Matilda Shead bn c1814 has a son Edward Freeman bn c1839
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Rochford : St Andrew : Parish Register Baptisms freereg.
Parents Edward a Butcher & Matilda
Noble Noah FREEMAN 30 Nov 1817
Jane FREEMAN 17 Oct 1819
Caroline FREEMAN 17 Apr 1825
Maria FREEMAN 29 Nov 1829
Catharine FREEMAN 15 May 1832
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Rochford : St Andrew : Parish Registers Burials
Noble FREEMAN 3 Mar 1829 Age 11
Catharine FREEMAN 28 Apr 1833 Age 1
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The freereg baptism shows Thomas, as a Thatcher and Matilda, abode Hawkwell
As posted.
Matilda FREEMAN Baptism 16 Jul 1837 Essex
Hockley : St Peter and St Paul : Parish Register
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