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Title: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: broaway on Wednesday 24 December 25 10:20 GMT (UK)
Firstly let me wish everyone a merry Christmas and thank everyone over the years that has helped me in my search
I am looking for a Birth location and maiden name for a Laura Collinson

In 1939 she is married and living at 18 Louden Street Derby.  Her birth date is 23 December 1901, At the same address are John Hodgkiss (b cir 1871) and Matthew Collinson (b cir 1896).

I am a bit lost with this one not sure if her maiden name was Bone clutching at straws here

Thank you in advance
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: willyam on Wednesday 24 December 25 10:46 GMT (UK)
Q1 1934 Matthew married Laura Smallbone in Derby

Q2 1920 Laura Gwendoline May Tozer married Ernest A Smallbone in Newton Abbott

23 January 1902 Laura G M Tozer, born 23 December 1901, was baptised in Plympton St Mary
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: broaway on Wednesday 24 December 25 10:50 GMT (UK)
Thank you so very much
Just got to try and find where she was born now

Thank you
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 24 December 25 11:06 GMT (UK)
www.freebmd.org.uk - birth shown in March qtr 1902 as Tozer

See 1911 census for further info
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: broaway on Wednesday 24 December 25 11:20 GMT (UK)
wow thank you

will check it out

Merry Christmas
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 24 December 25 11:24 GMT (UK)
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

No mothers maiden name shows so she was illegitimate
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 24 December 25 11:28 GMT (UK)
Baptised 23.1.1902 mother was Ada
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: broaway on Wednesday 24 December 25 11:29 GMT (UK)
Thank you Carole so much does it say where she was born please
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 24 December 25 11:33 GMT (UK)
An Ada Selina Tozer married 1905 Plympton to either William Henry Elford or William Henry Ellis

Birth was registerd Plympton - Devon.  Check the 1911/1921 censuses for her actual birthplace or download a digital copy of her birth cert for £3 from the GRO link shown in my reply above
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: broaway on Wednesday 24 December 25 11:37 GMT (UK)
thank you so very much this has been a stumbling block for a long time

Can only say a big thank you to you and everyone who contributed

Thank you always been there to assist me
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 24 December 25 11:50 GMT (UK)
Found her in 1911 transcribed as Togir on Ancestry.

Shown as the niece of James Putt aged 49 - piece 12835
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 24 December 25 11:55 GMT (UK)
I was doubting Ada Selena because there is another Ada Tozer.
However, Ada Selina was Hingston according to a tree and James Putt’s wife, Mary Elizabeth was Hingston too.

Bearing in mind the information comes from a published tree, there may be some doubt but it does look good so far. Well done, Carole.
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: Wayne N on Wednesday 24 December 25 12:01 GMT (UK)
Mother's abode at the time of baptism was the Union Workhouse in Plymouth, Devon
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: broaway on Wednesday 24 December 25 12:32 GMT (UK)
thank you everyone
So much info   so very pleased

Merry Christmas ;D ;D
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 24 December 25 14:06 GMT (UK)
1901 for Ada Selina Tozer - all surname Tozer

Ada Selina 35 b Broadhampton - widow
Alfred Ernest Harvey 12 b Broadhampton - birth reg is surname Hingston
Isabella M 8 b Ivybridge - reg as Tozer - mmn Hingston
William Samuel 3 ditto
Ada Florence Pillage 9mths ditto

Ada Selina Harvey Hingston was b 1864 mmn Harvey

Can't find a marriage to Tozer
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 24 December 25 14:19 GMT (UK)
Looking at the records, I think Ada had a hard life.
There are deaths in 1898 for Francis Tozer, 72 yrs and a birth and death for baby Francis Albany H Tozer, 0 yrs.
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: Galium on Wednesday 24 December 25 17:30 GMT (UK)
Looks like Laura and Ernest Smallbone had a daughter, Ada, birth and death registered in Newton Abbott district June Q 1920 Mmn Tozer.

It's possible that Ernest is Ernest Inkerman Smallbone born in Guildford in 1886 - records vary as to the exact year given. He was a stoker in the Royal Navy.  In 1921, he and Laura are recorded in separate places, both shown as married.

If so, he had two children with Agnes Westwater, born in 1922 and 1923. I don't find a marriage for them either in England and Wales, or in Scotland, where she was born. 
I can't find Ernest in 1939, although Agnes (shown as married) is with one of the children in Portsmouth. 
Ernest Inkerman Smallbone died in Portsmouth 4 July 1965 (National Probate Calendar)
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 25 December 25 00:29 GMT (UK)
Laura Gwendoline May Tozer, born 23 December 1901
Baptised 23.1.1902 Plympton St Mary. Mother was Ada.

1911 census Caddaford Cottage Staverton Devon
Laura Tozer 9 Niece born Plympton
Living in the house of James and Mary Elizabeth PUTT

(Mary Elizabeth PUTT, born 1861 Broadhempston as Mary Elizabeth Harvey HINGSTON – the sister of Ada Selina Harvey Hingston)

1920 Laura Gwendoline May Tozer married Ernest A Smallbone in Newton Abbott

1921 census 6 Brunswick Terr, Torquay
Laura Smallbone 20yrs 6 months, born Broadhempston, married, Boarder in the house of Thomas Coombs.

[Summary of information previously posted.]

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Ada Selina Harvey HINGSTON born 1864 Newton Abbott, Devon
Birth -
HINGSTON, ADA  SELINA HARVEY    Mother - HARVEY 
GRO Reference: 1864  S Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT  Volume 05B  Page 129


1881 census Broadhempston
Ada Hingston 16 born Broadhempston, single, servant in the house of Ann Maria MANN 64.

1891 census Ermington/ Plympton St Mary
Francis Tozer 63 Head, married, Agricultural lab
Ada Tozer 28 wife, rag sorter born Broadhempston
Alfred Harvey 2 Stepson born Plympton
Richard Tozer 15 grandson

•   1898 Death of Francis Tozer

1901 census Ivybridge / Plympton St Mary
Ada Selina Tozer 35 widowed Charwoman born Broadhempston
Alfred Ernest Harvey 12 son born Broadhempston
Isabella M Tozer 8 daughter born Ivybridge
William Samuel Tozer 3 son Ivybridge
Ada Florence Pillage Tozer 0 daughter Ivybridge (She died in 1902)


•   Ada Selina TOZER married 1905 Plympton St Mary to William Henry WILLIS


•   Ada WILLIS died Ugborough, Devon.  Burial 26 Sept 1907


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Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 25 December 25 00:31 GMT (UK)
Ada Selina Harvey HINGSTON - daughter of Mary Maria HARVEY and William HINGSTON

Mary Maria HARVEY born 1840 Newton Abbot, Devon
Birth -
HARVEY, MARY  MARIA     Mother - LUSCOMBE 
GRO Reference: 1840  D Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT  Volume 10  Page 119

[George HARVEY marriage Elizabeth LUSCOMBE - 4 Sept 1836 Exeter, St Mary Steps, Devon]

1841 census Broadhempston
George Harvey 30 carpenter
Elizabeth Harvey 25
Sarah Harvey 4
Edward Harvey 2
Mary Harvey 6 months

1851 census Broadhempston
George Harvey 40 carpenter, born Ashburton
Elizabeth Harvey 36 born Broadhempston
Sarah S L Harvey 14 born Broadhempston
Edward G Harvey 12 born Broadhempston
Mary M Harvey 10 born Broadhempston
Edwin Harvey 8 born Broadhempston
Jane E Harvey 5 born Broadhempston
Henry Harvey 1 born Broadhempston


•   Mary Maria HARVEY married 1859 Newton Abbot to William HINGSTON

1861 census Broadhempston, Devon
William Hingston 23, agric labourer, born Staverton
Mary Maria Hingston 20 born Broadhempston
Mary W Hingston 1 month born Broadhempston
Jane E Harvey 16 sister in law, born Broadhempston
Henry Harvey 12 brother in law, born Broadhempston

•   Wiliam HINGSTON died 8 Dec 1870 Broadhempston, Devon (age 33)

1871 census Broadhempston, Devon
Mary Hingston 36 widow, needle woman born Broadhempston
Elizabeth Hingston 11 daughter born Broadhempston
Ada Hingston 6 daughter born Broadhempston
George Hingston 2 son born Broadhempston


•   Mary Maria HINGSTON married 1871 Newton Abbot to William Thomas COX

1881 census Broadhempston, Devon
William Cox 33, Head, married, agric labourer, born Broadhempston
Mary Cox, late Hingston, wife, 40 plain needle worker, born Broadhempston
George Hingston 12 Stepson, born Broadhempston (weakly from birth)
William Cox 9 son, born Broadhempston
Edward Cox 6 son, born Broadhempston
Louisa Cox 4 Daughter, born Broadhempston
Henry Cox 1 son, born Broadhempston


By 1891 census, 2 more children born. Thomas 1882 and Mary 1885

Mary M. Cox death 1918 Newton Abbot (age 77)
Title: Re: Birth location and maiden name
Post by: broaway on Thursday 25 December 25 09:33 GMT (UK)
thank you all so much information
so very pleased my brick wall has crumbled on this

Thank you all again

merry Christmas