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I have found a marriage certificate for my gguncle in Sheffield. In the bottom left corner of the certificate it says, in part, "Col. 2 for "Ashton" and in Col. 7 for "Ashton" read "Quarmby". Corrected on the 18th day of April 1931 by me, G.C. Weaver, Vicar.
Where exactly does "Quarmby" enter the picture and for what meaning? Nowhere else, in all the subsequent recordings, does the name "Quarmby" appear.
Any help will be appreciated.
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For anybody who doesn't have a marriage cert to hand!!
Column 2 is "Name & surname"
Column 7 is "fathers name & surname"
Although it was "corrected in 1931" - when did the marriage actually take place & what were the names of the bride & groom?
Whose name was corrected in column 2 - bride or groom?
What were the names of their respective fathers & which fathers name was corrected in col 7 - bride's or grooms?
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I have found a marriage certificate for my gguncle in Sheffield. In the bottom left corner of the certificate it says, in part, Col. 2 for "Ashton" and in Col. 7 for "Ashton" read "Quarmby". Corrected on the 18th day of April 1931 by me, G.C. Weaver, Vicar.
Not enough information provided in your opening post to be able to make an informed comment.
However, there is a family in the Yorkshire area with the surname Ashton-Quamby or Ashton Quanbury.
In the census records they sometimes are recorded with the just the name Ashton, and sometimes as Quanbury.
The names perhaps goes back to the marriage of Elizabeth Ashton and William Quanbury in 1842.
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]Thanks for your response. The marriage was in 1901 and names recorded on the marriage certificate were Albert Cook and Betsy Jane Ashton. Witnesses were William Edward Ashton and Maggie Boag. It appears that nothing on the document has been changed, except for the addition of the notation in the bottom left corner, Her father's name is Ashton. I cannot see where Quarmby comes into it. I tried to attach a copy of the certificate but it would not go through. So, this is the complete notation - In entry 404 col 2 for 'Ashton' read 'Quarmby otherwise Ashton and in Col 7 for 'Ashton' read 'Quarmby'. Corrected on the eighteenth day of April 1931by me G.C. Weaver, Vicar, in the presence of Albert Cook and Betsy Jane Cook, the parties married.
If her father's name is Ashton Any help will be appreciated.
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Per freebmd & GRO online
QUARMBY, BETSY JANE mmn UTTRIDGE
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 104
Download a digital copy of her birth cert for £3 to get parents christian names
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QUARMBY, BETSY JANE mmn UTTRIDGE
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 104
Thanks for this additional information but I'm not sure what I'm looking at. Sorry, but could you please explain what "mmn UTTRIDGE" means?
Robyn
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It's her birth registration - mmn - Mothers maiden name
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You can download a digital copy of her birth cert for £3 here
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
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Thanks for that.
So, do I have this correct now? Betsy Jane's mother, nee Uttridge, must have been married to Quarmby, and perhaps later on, to William Ashton. Betsy Jane took the name of Ashton, and when she married Albert Cook, it was registered as Betsy Jane Ashton. Subsequently, 30 years later, the Vicar made the notation on the certificate, entering the name of Quarmby. The name, Ashton, on the document was not actually changed - it was a notation written in the corner of the document.
I feel I'm spinning my wheels on this, and I still don't know why my previous posting has been labelled as SPAM.
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I can't find a Quarmby/Uttridge or Utteridge marriage.
The birth cert will show whether the mother was "Uttridge" or nee Uttridge. If the former - it may suggest there was no marriage but Mr Quarmby admitted paternity & attended the birth registration.
If that is the case - we are looking for an Uttridge/Utteridge marriage to an Ashton which can't be found at the moment
You really need the names from the birth cert
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Thanks so much for your help and patience.
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There is a marriage for a Betsy Utteridge b 1854 to a William Quanbury on 2.7 1900 in St Peters Bradford. Both are shown as single
He was 48 occ brickmaker - father William deceased occ blacksmith
She was 46 - father also William - not shown as deceased - occ hawker
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Until the parents names on the birth cert are known - the following is just guesswork
Betsy Jane was possibly illegitimate & was "adopted" by a family called Ashton hence her believing that was her maiden name??
If you look at the marriage cert - one of the witnesses was William Edward Ashton
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The witness William Edward Ashton appears on the census records as a brother to Betsy Jane Aston.
William Edward married Ellen Walker in 1898, but his marriage certificate was also amended in October 1932.
“Inventory no. 198 Col 2 for Ashton read Aston otherwise Cranbury and in Col 7 For Ashton read Cranbury” signed by the vicar, and both bride and groom.
This is his birth certificate
CRANBURY, WILLIAM EDWARD Mother - UTTERIDGE
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 455
Another sibling Emily Ashton married Albert Armitage in 1901
Also on her marriage certificate date May 1931 was the same correction.
Instead of Emily Ashton read Emily Quambury and the father’s name changed to William Quambury.
Her birth
QUAMBURY, EMILY Mother - UTTERIDGE
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 478
The parents to the above three people :-
Betsy UTTERIDGE (age 48) born 1854 Helpstone, Northampton
William QUANBURY (age 48) born 1852 Bourne, Lincolnshire
They married in Bradford on 2nd July 1900
His father is recorded as William Quanbury - blacksmith deceased
Her father William Utteridge – Hawker
William and Betsy obviously had been living together for many years using the surname ASHTON and had several children whose births were recorded as QUAMBURY.
Obviously something happened in the early 1930s, and the children got their birth certificates, and discovered their true surname.
Notice that the spelling on their individual birth certificates is the same as that on their marriage amendment.
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William QUANBURY born 1852 Bourne, Lincolnshire
Was the son of William QUANBURY and Elizabeth ASHTON
Birth Rego
QUANBURY, WILLIAM Mother - ASHTON
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in BOURN Volume 07A Page 279
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Bapt
Marriage;
05 Dec 1842 St John the Baptist, Morton by Bourne
William QUANBURY, 25, Bachelor, Blacksmith, Father WILLIAM a Farmer
Elizabeth ASHTON, 21, Spinster, Servant, Father JOHN a Labourer
Witnesses John QUANBURY/Michael BOYER
(Source FreeREG)
Bapts of children are there also some Deeping and some Morton.
Under various spellings of surname;
John 1843
Mary Ann 1845
Elizabeth 1847
Eliza 1848
Maria 1851
James 1856
Fanny 1858
1851 Census
William Quanbury 31 Head
Elizabeth Quanbury 29 Wife
John Quanbury 7 Son
Mary Ann Quanbury 6 Daughter
Elizabeth Quanbury 4 Daughter
Eliza Quanbury 2 Daughter
Maria Quanbury 7 mths Daughter
1851 also have children WILLIAM 1853**/JANE 1856/EDWARD 1860 who I cant see baptisms for on there.
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Thanks to everyone who helped me with this research.