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Title: What happened to the Johnson family?
Post by: Helina on Tuesday 23 December 25 10:00 GMT (UK)
After 1871 this family seems to have disappeared.
Emma Williams born 1833(c) Olveston Gloucestershire, parents George and Amelia Williams. In 1863 Emma marries Edward Johnson on the 29th January  at Clifton Christchurch Bristol. I have a copy of the marriage certificate naming George as the father who is a butcher which is correct. Both Emma and Edward where single.
The couple appear to have 3 children;
Sarah b 1856 at Westerleigh (born before the marriage so surname could be Williams)
Frederick b 1862 at Frampton Cotterell
John b 1865 at Frampton Cotterell
In the 1871 census Emma is a widow.
I can find no information on the father Edward apart from the marriage, showing his father is also called Edward and is a shipwright
There is a death for a Emma Johnson in 1899 but not sure if correct. Her death was registered at Chipping Sodbury.
Any help would be appreciated.
helina
Title: Re: What happened to the Johnson family?
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 23 December 25 12:07 GMT (UK)
Are you sure you have the right 1871 entry?

See 1861 entry for Frampton Cotterell 1746/88/18  Mark & Emma Johnson nee Walter - dtr Sarah aged 5.  Both Emma & Sarah b Westerleigh.  Husband Mark Johnson died 1864

RD = Chipping Sodbury
Title: Re: What happened to the Johnson family?
Post by: Helina on Tuesday 23 December 25 12:15 GMT (UK)
Not sure with this family, the 1861 census I have she is working as a servant in Christchurch 2 years before she marries.
Title: Re: What happened to the Johnson family?
Post by: Helina on Tuesday 23 December 25 12:23 GMT (UK)
Hope this helps
Title: Re: What happened to the Johnson family?
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 23 December 25 12:24 GMT (UK)
Son Frederick aged 9 was b Sept qtr 1861 - mmn Walter

Another son Charles born & died 1863 - mmn Walter

Son John b March qtr 1865 - mmn Walters

Husband Mark died Dec qtr 1864

You have the wrong 1871 entry
Title: Re: What happened to the Johnson family?
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 23 December 25 14:05 GMT (UK)
A possible daughter for Edward and Emma :-\


JOHNSON, AGNES  ELIZA   mmn WILLIAMS     
GRO Ref: 1863  S Qtr BRISTOL  Vol 06A  Page 50

Agnes Eliza Louise Johnson
Baptism 21 Oct 1863 St Augustine the Less, Bristol
Parents Edward and Emma Johnson  Father Shipwright


1881 Living as Niece with the Stamp family including the father in law Edward Johnson age 64 Shipwright b Brockweir Gloucestershire (Agnes's Grandfather?)
Title: Re: What happened to the Johnson family?
Post by: Helina on Tuesday 23 December 25 14:47 GMT (UK)
So Emma was married to Mark, very likely a brother, I am off to Leicester for Christmas so will research more on my return. Thank you for your help
helina
Title: Re: What happened to the Johnson family?
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 23 December 25 16:19 GMT (UK)
If you are researching Emma WILLIAMS  - no - she did not marry Mark Johnson.  That Emma was Emma WALTER(s)

As I said above - you have quoted the wrong 1871 entry
Title: Re: What happened to the Johnson family?
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 24 December 25 09:33 GMT (UK)
 
 When Agnes Eliza Louise Johnson marries, her Father is Edward - ships carpenter.
 A witness is Rose Francis Johnson ( Spelt with i).
  She appears as daughter of Edward and Elizabeth Johnson on 1881 census as a new born.
 Older siblings appear to be James W age 5 and Rachel K age 3 .
 Father Edward has remarried as a widower in 1871 to Elizabeth Lavis a spinster. He lists himself as a ships carpenter.
  So looking for a death for Emma before 1871.
  Tazzie
Title: Re: What happened to the Johnson family?
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 24 December 25 09:57 GMT (UK)
I think this is Agnes in 1871 living with her grandmother in Chepstow

Rachael Johnson 50  Lodging House Keeper b Caerwent Monmouthshire
Jane Johnson   25 Daughter
Agnes Johnson   7 Granddaughter b Bristol
Title: Re: What happened to the Johnson family?
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 24 December 25 10:06 GMT (UK)
Hi.

  Going on the census for 1871.
   Emma JOHNSTON age 34 died Chepstow Monmouth 1870 q. Jan/Feb/Mar.

  Tazzie