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Title: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: Leashl on Wednesday 17 December 25 23:00 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Thomas Hutchinson entered apprenticeship in 1720 and record notes "Of Rotherfield" with no parent details. Does anyone have access to the database and can take a peek to see if there are any records? Thank you.
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 18 December 25 04:35 GMT (UK)
What database are you referring to?

Have you looked at The Keep?
https://www.thekeep.info/

I see an entry on FindMyPast for 1719 not 1720 is that the one?
Originals at Nationa Archives.
You might have to pay a researcher to look for you,
Unless there is someone in RC going there who is wiling to help.

Looking at some other entries in that data set, where parents are named, I would be inclined to think there is nothing else for Thomas.
. See jonwarms much more useful replies later  :)

There is a Thomas Hutchinson senior buried in Rotherfield 1731


Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 18 December 25 06:24 GMT (UK)
His will recorded here, might be useful

https://www.thekeep.info/collections/getrecord/GB179_PBT_1_1_53_223
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: jonwarrn on Thursday 18 December 25 08:27 GMT (UK)
https://www.thekeep.info/collections/getrecord/GB179_PBT_1_1_53_223

Thomas Hutchinson the Elder of Rotherfield
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D4M9-8FB
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: jonwarrn on Thursday 18 December 25 10:31 GMT (UK)
I see an entry on FindMyPast for 1719 not 1720 is that the one?
Originals at National Archives.

Images of the registers are on ancestry, which has a free index
UK, Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices' Indentures, 1710-1811
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/1851/

Or browse them for free on TNA website
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/r/C233854/first/C233854

More info here
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/apprentices-and-masters/
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: jonwarrn on Thursday 18 December 25 11:16 GMT (UK)
Or browse them for free on TNA website

IR 1/7
City (Town) Registers.
June 1719 - Sep.1720
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C233854

Images 295, 296. Last entry
Apprenticed to Wm Austin of East Grinstead, Butcher

Seems doubtful that you will find anything else.
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: Leashl on Thursday 18 December 25 13:08 GMT (UK)

What database are you referring to?

Have you looked at The Keep?
https://www.thekeep.info/

I see an entry on FindMyPast for 1719 not 1720 is that the one?
Originals at National Archives.
You might have to pay a researcher to look for you,
Unless there is someone in RC going there who is wiling to help.

Looking at some other entries in that data set, where parents are named, I would be inclined to think there is nothing else for Thomas.

There is a Thomas Hutchinson senior buried in Rotherfield 1731

Thanks. The date is entered incorrectly, it is 1719. He is the only entry that does not have "son of...".

The Thomas of Rotherfield buried 1731 is a different person, mine died in Hooe in 1755. Many trees attribute my Thomas b1705 as the son of Richard Hutchinson but Richard's Will, where he refers to his son Thomas, was signed after my Thomas death.

Thanks for your help. Likely a brick wall.
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: jonwarrn on Thursday 18 December 25 16:48 GMT (UK)
The date is entered incorrectly, it is 1719.

It is not.

IR 1/7
City (Town) Registers.
June 1719 - Sep.1720
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C233854

Images 295, 296.

Thomas Hutchinson's entry on 10 June 1720
The register starts (first image) on 22 June 1719 ::)
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: Bookbox on Thursday 18 December 25 20:54 GMT (UK)
Just for the record, 10 June 1720 was the date William Austin paid the tax. Thomas Hutchinson's apprenticeship had begun on 7 April 1720.
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 19 December 25 08:07 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Bookbox.
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: Leashl on Sunday 21 December 25 04:01 GMT (UK)
Just for the record, 10 June 1720 was the date William Austin paid the tax. Thomas Hutchinson's apprenticeship had begun on 7 April 1720.

Thanks for the correction. Most of the leading Hutchinson family in Rotherfield Yeomen/gentry, so do you think this Thomas was likely an orphan with no father mentioned?
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: jonwarrn on Sunday 21 December 25 08:48 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the correction.

There are two dates in June 1720.

It was me that corrected you.

The date is entered incorrectly, it is 1719.

This is not true either...

He is the only entry that does not have "son of...".
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: jonwarrn on Sunday 21 December 25 08:57 GMT (UK)
The Thomas of Rotherfield buried 1731 is a different person

Nobody suggested it was your person.


mine died in Hooe in 1755

Why do you think that your Thomas Hutchinson who was in Hooe might be Thomas of Rotherfield who was apprenticed in 1720?
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: Bookbox on Sunday 21 December 25 08:59 GMT (UK)
... do you think this Thomas was likely an orphan with no father mentioned?

Impossible to say from this record alone. The premium may have been paid by another relative, or by a local benefactor. It certainly wasn't a parish poor-law apprenticeship, as those were not subject to tax.
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: jonwarrn on Sunday 21 December 25 09:26 GMT (UK)
Could it be that the Thomas Hutchinson who was apprenticed in East Grinstead in 1720 was the Thomas who was later in Hartfield, married to Jane.

1744
Upon the appeal of the Parishoners of the Parish of East Grinsted in the said County from an Order or Warrant of two of his Majesty's Justices of the peace of the said County for removing of Thomas Hutchinson and Jane his wife from the parish of Hartfield in the said County to the said parish of East Grinsted
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6MZQ-TYG

The Thomas who died in 1755 in Hooe was married to Sarah.
Title: Re: Thomas Hutchinson Settlement Certificate 1690 to 1720
Post by: jonwarrn on Sunday 21 December 25 09:43 GMT (UK)
Set aside

HUTCHINSON Thomas, wife Jane; JPs order [9 July 1744 endorsed 2 August, QR/462/85] removing them from Hartfield to East Grinstead set aside [Thomas HUTCHINSON married Jane JENNER at Maresfield 1744]
https://www.thekeep.info/collections/getrecord/GB179_Q_1_5_18_1745-01-17