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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: sugarfizzle on Sunday 14 December 25 00:58 GMT (UK)
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Ure Westall (transcribed as Una or Rose) born 1925 has recently been unredacted from 1939 Register and I am puzzled. She has 2 entries, one staying with her uncle and aunt, Leonard George and Evelyn Hyde, in Whitstable, Kent. Appears to indicate that she married 'Jones' and 'Maitland'. On the right page it says 'see page 21'.
On page 21 she appears again, along with nearly a page full of redacted names, this time indicating that she married 'Maitland'
Firstly, I am wondering why she appears twice.
Secondly, I know that she married Jones, and not Maitland - why would this be incorrect?
Hoping that somebody can give me some ideas.
Thank you in advance, Margaret
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The name changes are Maitland 1949 and Jones 1958/9.From Ancestry Electoral rolls, it seems she did use Maitland for a few years.
82 Connaught Avenue, Enfield
1949 Ore Westall & Gertrude Westall
1950-53 Ure Maitland & Gertrude Westall
1955-57 John M Jones, Ure Jones & Gertrude Westall
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Thank you very much. How extraordinary! I don't know how I've missed that all these years. I have later records for Gertrude Westall, + John and Ure Jones at that address, I must have thought I'd seen enough.
Any ideas as to why she would be entered twice in 1939?
Thank you, Margaret
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The heavily redacted page gives her Schedule number as 196/5, as does the earlier page.
Perhaps she was sent to Uncle Leonard as an evacuee, and the later pages are lists of all evacuees. Most of them for several pages are redacted, with different schedule numbers on the unredacted ones.
But official evacuees didn't usually stay with relatives, did they?
Margaret
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Yes evacuees did stay with relatives, my parents had my father's niece with them until she left school when she went back to her parents in London and she was with them on the 1939 register.
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Answer found then. Thank you all.
AI generated, but seems likely -
'It was common for evacuees in the 1939 UK evacuation to appear listed twice in official records, most notably the 1939 Register, due to the timing and nature of the registration process and subsequent updates.'
Maitland is still a puzzle, I don't know that I'll find a proper conclusion for that.
Thanks to all, and Happy Christmas
:)
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It has nothing to do with evacuees. The heavily redacted pages are all the people whose medical records continued on to a second page because they ran out of space on the first page. These lists always appear on the last couple of pages of the enumeration book. They are mostly redacted because they are usually younger people who had a long NHS history.
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/1939-register/
Scroll down to #8 for an explanation of continuation entries.
Debra :D
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What medical information would they add to 1939 Register - what would be the point? I have read that the right hand page gives information re moves to a different area/GP, but not entirely sure if that is correct.
Ure Westall didn't have any complicated medical history that I know of. She was born and brought up in Enfield, today is the first time I've seen her recorded as living anywhere else.
???
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From the next part of the link which you shared, Debra
"9.4 The ‘postings’ column
Each entry in the Register extended across a double page spread. However, the accessioned digital record does not include the ‘postings’ column on the right hand page which contains various codes used for National Registration and National Health Service purposes. The National Archives does not have access to this column and the information it contains."
I still don't fully understand (my brain is a bit fuddled these days!), but I have a better understanding of the situation. Thank you very much.
And thanks to all who have helped me with this.
Margaret
Happy Christmas to all
:)
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What medical information would they add to 1939 Register - what would be the point?
"...since 1948 the Register had also been used by the National Health Service, who continued updating the records until 1991, when paper-based record keeping was discontinued."
For many people the medical notations would have spanned the whole 50 years up to the 1990's.
Debra :D
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Peter Calver from Lost Cousins has a different explanation - apparently has had access to his record when it was later added.
https://www.lostcousins.com/newsletters2/mar16news.htm#NHS
"The information that we can't see on the right-hand page of the 1939 Register......
simply records when the individual concerned moved from one doctor to another."
People move around a lot more now,, would move GP many times. Ure didn't move house very much, perhaps she just changed GP frequently. :)
Margaret