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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Leon47 on Tuesday 09 December 25 19:52 GMT (UK)
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Please see attached. I'm interested in the street name for the top entry, record number 230. Any ideas?
It looks like 17 Saint something (St.) but the following word doesn't start in a capital.
Thanks.
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L[owe]r Grosvenor St[reet]-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1878/02956/2083047.pdf
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Lt (Little) Grosvenor Street ?
https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/efgcomplete1880.htm
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I'm sticking with Lower :D
Lots of mentions in Belfast papers for Lower Grosvenor Street :)
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Thank you. I would never have got that.
Now I'm having trouble finding Lower Grosvenor Street on lennonwylie in 1877 (the nearest year available). Just to check the name at number 17.
I can't find it searching for 'Lower Grosvenor Street' or some street listed near to "Grosvenor Street" (like Upper, or Lower).
Any help?
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Ahh. I see a reply came in while I was typing, suggesting Little .....
So why can't I find an entry on Lennonwylie for Great Grosvenor Street? The entry for 17 Little Grosvenor shows a different name, but that doesn't mean anything. I know people moved house redulously often in those times.
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The directories didn't list every street but you can check the Valuation Revision Books on PRONI's site to get a more accurate picture of who was at a property.
Also remember that directories were given a post-compilation date. Thus, the data for an 1880 directory might have been compiled the previous year.
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OK, ta.
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Almost all of the several hundred Ulster newspaper references I can see to Lower Grosvenor Street are to the street at the SE corner of Grosvenor Square in London and these peter out after the 1860s (presumably when the London street became just Grosvenor Street).
There are literally only a handful of newspaper references to Lower Grosvenor Street relating to Belfast, probing a couple of these further, I discovered that one wasn't so much stating a Belfast street name as it was indicating an area at one end of Grosvenor Street, ie. the Lower Grosvenor Street area of Belfast and the second was a mistake, namely someone with the distinctive name of Robert Conroy of 28 Lower Grosvenor Street in an 1897 newspaper item, whom I was able to readily find at 28 Little Grosvenor Street in a contemporary street directory.
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Does this help?
https://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=61860.0
https://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=34707.0
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Very interesting scotmum, thank you.
Actually, taking everything into consideration and having looked again at that document I posted, I'm inclined to go with Little Grosvenor Street.
I still think I wouldn't have got that on my own, so thanks all round.
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I understand that Little Grosvenor Street is now part of Grosvenor Road, running west from the end of Howard Street to the junction with Distillery Street and Cullingtree Road. Unfortunately I don't have an old street plan to check.