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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: Keziah2 on Sunday 07 December 25 14:00 GMT (UK)
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Hoping someone can help track Arthur down.
He was born in Gt Waltham bpt 6 Mar 1881 son of John Sorrell & Mary Ann. On the 1901CR as George? They didn’t as far as I know they did not have a George so pretty sure this was Arthur George 1881. I then sort of lose him.
There’s a George Sorrell at Gt Leigh’s in 1911 age 30 b c1881 Gt Waltham he single & working as an agric labourer. So right age etc.
1921 there’s a George Sorrell 42 b: Lt Waltham working as an engine driver for Lord Rayleigh at Terling.
There’s then a death recorded for an Arthur George Sorrell age 73 buried 9 Nov 1954 Terling All Saints.
Can’t find a George or an Arthur in 1939 to narrow down as to whether this is same Arthur/George or not. To make matters worse there was an Arthur Sorrell 1883 son of James Sorrell & Mary Ann (Miller) in same sort of location.
Gt Waltham, Lt Waltham, Gt Leigh’s & Terling are all fairly close to each other.
Appreciate your help
K
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Is he with family in 1881/1891 as Arthur George?
If you have parents alive in 1911 you can check number of children still living (if you haven’t already) to be sure he is alive and out there somewhere.
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Arthur George Sorrell
Baptism 6 Mar 1881 Great Waltham, St Mary and St Lawrence, Essex
Father John Sorrell Mother Mary Ann Sorrell
Do you have his exact date of birth?
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Yes he’s with them in 1881 - Arthur George & just as Arthur in 1891. In Howe Street, Great Waltham.
Thanks Milliepede - just to confirm
They had 6 children - 1911 says 5 still alive. Ellen Linnett (nee Sorrell) died in 1906. There was a stepson - son of Mary Ann Hornsby & he’s not counted into the 6 children of John & Mary Ann.
Still looking for Arthur seemingly ???
& thanks Ladyhawk - yes I have all the births & bpt for the family but it’s Arthur or maybe George that I can’t track down.
K
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Helpful suggestion ladyhawk but no I don’t have exact date of birth unfortunately as it might help eliminate or confirm the death in 1954.
In 1921 Arthur b c1883 is in Gt Waltham & his father James is living with him. So possibly the 1921 George in Gt Leigh’s is Arthur George - just haven’t found him subsequently to confirm that.
K
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Helpful suggestion ladyhawk but no I don’t have exact date of birth unfortunately as it might help eliminate or confirm the death in 1954.
Have you found all his family in 1921?
Ernest John Sorrell
Enlistment Age 23
Birth Place Great Watham, Essex
Regimental Number 39
Regiment Name Head Qts Coy
Number of Images 14
Form Title Attestation
Damaged but can make out father John Sorrell, Howe Street, Gt Wal
As you probably aware instant digital images are available on GRO but I couldn’t find a matching entry
for this birth showing mmn :-\
Arthur George Sorrell 1881 Jan-Feb-Mar Chelmsford, Essex Volume 4a Page 318
Did he marry?
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Thanks again ladyhawk
Yes I have stuff on Earnest John - he was my Gt Uncle & I actually had the pleasure of knowing both him & his wife Ethel.
I’m just trying to complete all the tricky ones I haven’t managed to track down previously. I did a lot in the ERO in late 70s. It’s so much easier now.
Can’t see that he married or was in military.
I’ve also checked member trees - unfortunately some are very wide of the mark.
Really just trying to make sure I haven’t missed the obvious myself.
K
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Do you think checking the instant digital image for the 1954 death would prove helpful ?
SORRELL, ARTHUR GEORGE 73
GRO Reference: 1954 D Quarter in CHELMSFORD Volume 04A Page 417
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Do you have Arthur and his family on 1901?
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SORRELL, AMELIA EMILY mmn HORNSBY
GRO Reference: 1888 J Quarter in CHELMSFORD Volume 04A Page 435
I can only find an Amelia on 1901 c with parents James & Mary Ann ???
Is this the 1901 census you have for George Sorrell?
Piece 1673
Folio 34
Page number 4
James Sorrell 47 Head Arg Labourer
Mary A 47 Wife
George 20 son occ Engine? >>>>>>>>is this your Arthur George?
James 16 Son
Amelia 12 Daughter
Ernest 10 Son
Emma 6 Daughter
All born Gt Waltham
SORRELL, EMMA MARY mmn HORNSBY
GRO Reference: 1894 J Quarter in CHELMSFORD Volume 04A Page 482
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This is the man who died in 1954. Marriage in 1933 to Martha R Bush (previously married 1910 as Bearman)
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Death of wife in 1938 and 1939 remarriage, and on 1939 Register with new wife.
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Sadly the £3 gro digital 1954 death image not available. If he did remarry 1939 Jessie Emily died 1946 in Croydon, but does not appear in Surrey electoral registers.
SS
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Well found Comberton - that must be Arthur as two of the mourners E J Sorrell and Mrs P Radley (sister Amelia married a Percy Radley)
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Thank you Comberton brilliant response
Looks like it could be the right Arthur I will do just a little more investigation as there is an E J Sorrell mentioned in the newspaper article & he had a brother Ernest John. Also a Radley - his sister Amelia married one Percy Radley.
K
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Burial of his father in 1939.
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Thank you again - I had the bare details of his death in the Oct-Dec Q 1939 age 89 but nothing else.
K
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For info.
1939 marriage is transcribed on FreeREG both widowed, occ engine driver, his father John Sorrell
Jessie E Mickelfield
Registration Jun 1939 Braintree
Spouse Arthur G Sorrell
Volume Number 4a Page number 2711
1939 Register Braintree Essex
Arthur G Sorrell 1882
Emily J Sorrell 1881
Arthur G Sorrell
Registration Mar 1933 Braintree
Spouse Martha R Bush
Volume Number 4a Page number 1137