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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: mulberry-rose on Friday 05 December 25 11:59 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I’m looking for what happened to two siblings after 1851. Thomas Harper (b. 1830) and Jane Harper (b. abt 1833).
Their parents are Thomas Harper (miner) and Jane Dixon nee Wardrobe who married at Durham in May 1827. Jane Snr was previously married to Charles Dixon in 1811 at Gateshead (he died in 1817).
Thomas was baptised 10 July 1830 at All Saints, Newcastle. Abode Wide Open.
In 1841 Thomas (11yr) & Jane (8yr) were living with their mother at “Fold” in Earsdon.
By 1851 Thomas (21, coal miner) & Jane (18) were still living at Seghill with their mother, who was on parish relief . Both their birthplaces listed as [Edit: corrected] Longbenton Northumberland. There is no sign of both after this.
Jane Snr died on 1 April 1853 at Seghill, the witness was her son Charles Dixon, from her first marriage.
Thank you :)
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Amarriage for the back burner for Jane.
Marriages Dec 1853
Harper Jane Tynemouth 10b 227
Johnson Thomas Tynemouth 10b 227
JOHNSON, THOMAS OLIVER mmn HARPER
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 109
JOHNSON, WILLIAM HENRY HARPER mmn HARPER
GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 116
1861 census
Piece 3837
Folio 24
Page number 1
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Thomas Johnson 30 Head
Jane Johnson 29 Wife
Thomas Johnson 5 Son
William Johnson 3 Son
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added--not your Jane, FindMyPast transcript has her father as William
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By 1851 Thomas (21, coal miner) & Jane (18) were still living at Seghill with their mother, who was on parish relief . Both their birthplaces listed as Wideopen Northumberland. There is no sign of both after this.
Looking at the image for that census entry their birth places are both listed as Long Benton :-\
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Yes I agree it's Long Benton Northumberland but no luck finding Thomas or Jane afterwards :-\
Did they have any other siblings apart from Charles Dixon?
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Yes I agree it's Long Benton Northumberland but no luck finding Thomas or Jane afterwards :-\
Did they have any other siblings apart from Charles Dixon?
Siblings
Catherine Harper 1826-27
Isabella Harper 1828-1892 ( married George Douglas 1886)
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By 1851 Thomas (21, coal miner) & Jane (18) were still living at Seghill with their mother, who was on parish relief . Both their birthplaces listed as Wideopen Northumberland. There is no sign of both after this.
Looking at the image for that census entry their birth places are both listed as Long Benton :-\
Sorry! I think I must have gotten mixed up when looking at the baptism and census
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Yes I agree it's Long Benton Northumberland but no luck finding Thomas or Jane afterwards :-\
Did they have any other siblings apart from Charles Dixon?
Charles Dixon had two elder brothers; George (1811) and Thomas (1815). But no sign of these two either. I’m inclined to think Thomas Dixon maybe died young or before 1830 given that Thomas Harper was named as such.
George’s baptism: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/68339b80865574fb7a30d850
Thomas’ baptism: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684dd71786557455d48d5027
Charles’ baptism: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684dd77486557455d48d754d
Catherine Harper’s baptism: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684d76a886557455d467c152
Isabella Harper’s baptism: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818cd49e93790ec8b318899
Thomas Harper’s baptism: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818cd09e93790ec8b310d68
Charles Dixon’s marriage: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684d541986557455d4592598
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I feel Iv looked briefly at this family before , did Jane not perhaps have a son William Lynn Harper 21st May 1853 , who lives with his maternal Grandparents in 1861
and Jane was a widow when she died in 1853 her son Charles being the informant on her death
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Thanks, I’ve previously looked at William Lynn Harper but I couldn’t find anything conclusive that would link his mother to my Jane Jr. :-\
I believe his father was William Lynn b. 1832 at Murton. He married Sarah Smart in 1860 at Tynemouth and died in 1861.
Jane Snr was in 1851 listed as a coal miners widow living off the parish relief. I don’t know when Thomas Harper Snr died though.
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Found this 1861 census possibility ???
6 Colliery Row Bedlington
John [Croudace?], 27, miner b Heworth Durham
Jane, 26, b Long Benton
Thomas, 3, b Barrington Colliery
Piece 3873, Folio 4, Page 1, Schedule 4
Edit: perhaps not. MMN Foggo. John Croudace m. Jane Foggo 1854 Newcastle
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Sorry, likely not much help but for the record here is the marriage for William Lynn
Christ Church
Entry 248
12 March 1860
William Lynn & Sarah Smart
Both full age
Bachelor & Spinster
Miner
Both This Parish
Fathers:
William Lynn – Miner
Thomas Smart – Miner
Witnesses: Eleanor Clark Hutton & Jane Waugh (Jane appears to have been a serial signer as she seems to have signed for other marriages too)
(William signed; Sarah signed her mark)
By Banns