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Title: Hannah's last name.
Post by: g eli on Thursday 04 December 25 20:48 GMT (UK)
On 30th December 1802 at Stapenhill, Robert Goodall of Longford married Hannah Warton of Caldwell.
I have never been able to find any mention of Hannah before this in the censuses and at her death her birth is 1777.
I was looking at the marriage record and noticed that there was a marriage of John Wetton on 18 Oct 1802 John also of Caldwell. Hannah Wetton made her mark as a witness.
Hannah Warton also made her mark at her marriage.
Given the widely different spelling of names at this time I am wondering if they could possibly be the same Hannah.
Title: Re: Hannah's last name.
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 04 December 25 23:22 GMT (UK)
1851 census
Hannah Goodall born abt 1777 Linton Derbyshire

1861 census
Hannah M Goodall born abt 1777 Linton Derbyshire

Hannah Worton Goodall died 1876 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/247646848/hannah-goodall
Title: Re: Hannah's last name.
Post by: g eli on Thursday 04 December 25 23:51 GMT (UK)
Thank you Neale 1961for your interest. You have the right Hannah, Unfortunately the worton on Find a Grave has been added by someone who has similar information to me.
I have found that Find a Grave can be useful but it tends to have mistakes because the person who added some of the information had a mistake in their family tree.
Title: Re: Hannah's last name.
Post by: Neale1961 on Friday 05 December 25 00:02 GMT (UK)
I have found that Find a Grave can be useful but it tends to have mistakes because the person who added some of the information had a mistake in their family tree.
Yes, I agree. Sadly, it is becoming worse for errors. People just add what they like.

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Regarding the John Wetton who married Mary Garrot  in 1802 Stapenhill

Census shows John Wetton / Whetton born abt 1798 Stanton

Baptism 6 July 1800 Stapenhill
John Wetton s/o Joseph and Sarah Wetton (abode Stanton)


Title: Re: Hannah's last name.
Post by: g eli on Friday 05 December 25 00:07 GMT (UK)
I don't think they are the same John Wetton. John Whetton born 1798 is unlikely to be marrying in1802
Title: Re: Hannah's last name.
Post by: Neale1961 on Friday 05 December 25 00:24 GMT (UK)
Sorry, that was silly of me. Should not try to look at 3 different things at the same time. !!  ::)
Title: Re: Hannah's last name.
Post by: Neale1961 on Friday 05 December 25 00:47 GMT (UK)
There are quite a few of Wetton / Wooton  baptisms in the Stapenhill (Stanton) area at the right time.

Possibles -
Ann Wetton bapt 1777 d/o Henry and Elizabeth (abode Stanton)

John Wetton bapt 1775 s/o Thomas and Elizabeth (abode Caldwell)

Also a Hannah Wetton bapt 10 May 1784 d/o Thomas and Elizabeth (abode Caldwell)

Your Hannah is consistent with Linton as place of birth in the census. Linton is only a mile from Caldwell.
Title: Re: Hannah's last name.
Post by: hanes teulu on Friday 05 December 25 11:34 GMT (UK)
Re. misspelling, is the name Warton on the 1802 Stapenhill marriage quite clear? The reason I ask is that FindMyPast has the baptism (transcript only) of a Hannah WaLton, 1777, Church Gresley, parents Wm & Mary. Church Gresley is just spitting distance from Caldwell/Linton. The parents married 1776.

Yet to find a marriage/death for a Hannah WaLton to rule her out definitely as a possible candidate for Hannah WaRton.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Hannah's last name.
Post by: g eli on Friday 05 December 25 18:06 GMT (UK)
This is the marriage
Title: Re: Hannah's last name.
Post by: Neale1961 on Friday 05 December 25 19:32 GMT (UK)
On the Robert Goodall marriage, is the first witness signed by someone ‘Wetton’ ? I can’t make out the first name - maybe ‘Thos’.  It is the hand writing of a very elderly or infirm person, or a drunkard.
It looks like the second witness signature on the previous John Wetton marriage.
What do you think that signature is?

Second thoughts - it might be Thos Fletcher. He might be the church cleric. Does he sign other marriages on the page?
Title: Re: Hannah's last name.
Post by: g eli on Friday 05 December 25 21:09 GMT (UK)
I think the signatures are Thomas Fletcher and he does sign as a witness in other marriages.