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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Carmarthenshire => Topic started by: roycymru on Thursday 04 December 25 09:24 GMT (UK)
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Hello
I would be grateful for any help in trying to unravel the accuracies/inaccuracies of an affiliation case from 12 Aug 1904. What I am trying to establish is detailed below. (I attach 2 newspaper extracts on the case).
Is the William Rice Williams referred to actually Woodford Rice Williams 1880 of Danybank Farm, Pontyates (whose father was also called Woofford Rice Williams)?
Who exactly was Ada Jones and can she be found in census records?
Who was the child and can he/she be found in census records.
The first article is the longest and therefore I regard as the more accurate of the 2. It mentions William Rice Williams of Danybank farm Pontyates, young farmer and son of a well to do Farmer and landowner. I believe this is actually Woodford Rice Williams, as mentioned above, who in 1909 marries an Evelyn John.
This article gives little information on Ada, other than that she was a young girl
The second article states Ada was of Andrew Steet, Llanelly. It also refers to Rice Williams as William not Woodford. It also mentions Danybrook, Pontyates, which again I think is an inaccuracy and should say Danybank.
Thank you
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Says they were courting for 3yrs so have you looked for Ada on the 1901 census?
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Says they were courting for 3yrs so have you looked for Ada on the 1901 census?
I have but no obvious match yet
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Doesn't the newspaper item read " ... only son of ...".
Have you tried to interpret "Children born, died, alive" on the 1911 Census (rather heavily scored out) and check for births/baptisms to confirm sons born??
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Doesn't the newspaper item read " ... only son of ...".
Have you tried to interpret "Children born, died, alive" on the 1911 Census (rather heavily scored out) and check for births/baptisms to confirm sons born??
You are correct, there was another son/brother John Rice Williams but he died in 1895 (1867-1895), leaving on Woodford and his sisters, this again leads me to believe that the article is referring to Woodford Rice Williams not William Rice Wiiliams. I can find no appropriate William Rice Williams in census records
The 1911 census entry you refer is for his father. As it is crossed out its reliability is uncertain. It says 7 children in total 4 dead and 3 alive. From census records I know of 6 children, three of which lived passed 1911.
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I read the entries as "7, 4, 3", the Censuses identifying MaryAnne, Margaret, Alice, Letitia, John R and Woodford R. Searching for the 7th not easy - Winford Snr married a Williams!
Was about to check for death of John R - thanks for sparing me the search.
Woodford Snr died 1918 but Woodford Jnr didn't move into Danybank but there was a legal matter in 1939 re the estate of the late Woodford R (died 1932?) where the occupier of Danybank was chasing Letitia and Evelyn (Woodford Jnr's wife) over a dead cow.
More than reasonable to suppose the newspaper article includes a typo.
Pob lwc