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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: SkyeSpotter on Wednesday 03 December 25 13:04 GMT (UK)
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Hello all,
I hope all is well with everyone.
My 4x great grandfather was Henry Metcalfe Marshall, born in 1814, North Shields.
Yesterday I came across his Masters and Mates certificate from 1851 on Ancestry. I know this is the correct Henry Marshall because of the address and D.O.B. on the certificate. Looking at the following pages attached to the record is a list of the ships he had been on since starting in 1830 aged 16.
I can make out the first two, 'Loyal Standard' (a Sunderland ship), and Argo I think is the second. However I can't really work out the others and would be grateful for any help!
And secondly, what is the trade he worked in? To me that looks like Coarting?
Any help and suggestions would be appreciated,
Thank you.
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I'd say the trade was "Coasting".
Not sure about the 3rd ship but the others could be:
Alpha
Hermione
Bramley
Tiberius
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I agree with ‘coasting’.
But I thought the penultimate name looked like Bransberg or Bramberg.
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Definitely Bramley. There are several newspaper mentions of the ship Bramley captained by Marshall engaged in coastal trade in 1849-50. Here they are sailing from Boston (Lincs) to Stockton in November 1849: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/cfd26afc-1eb8-4e6b-bd44-9b17774f9966
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The third one could be "Jane"
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I'd say the trade was "Coasting".
Not sure about the 3rd ship but the others could be:
Alpha
Hermione
Bramley
Tiberius
Hi ShaunJ, thats great, thank you so much.
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Definitely Bramley. There are several newspaper mentions of the ship Bramley captained by Marshall engaged in coastal trade in 1849-50. Here they are sailing from Boston (Lincs) to Stockton in November 1849: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/cfd26afc-1eb8-4e6b-bd44-9b17774f9966
Great find! Thanks again!
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Hi, thank you both for your help.
I've come across this, which I need some help with.
For the 'Marks', it think it says "'__' in the eyes and seaman nose".
Can anyone make out what the first word might be? Last or cast?
Thanks again.
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"Cast in the eyes and scar on nose"
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"Cast in the eyes and scar on nose"
Brilliant, thanks again!
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I saw Jessy as the 3rd on the list. There are 2 of that name around at the time - one 71 tons, t'other 170 tons. Need to check Lloyds' Register further.
As pointed out, "Bramley, Marshall" popping up in the newspaper shipping reports. But yet to find the Bramley in Lloyds' Register.
Found reference to Henry Marshall, Hermione, in Lloyds
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I saw Jessy as the 3rd on the list. There are 2 of that name around at the time - one 71 tons, t'other 170 tons. Need to check Lloyds' Register further.
As pointed out, "Bramley, Marshall" popping up in the newspaper shipping reports. But yet to find the Bramley in Lloyds' Register.
Found reference to Henry Marshall, Hermione, in Lloyds
Thanks for this. Are you able to send a link to the Lloyds page?
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Search
https://archive.org/details/@lrfhec?sort=-publicdate
See "More" left column to chase year you are interested in
https://www.maritimearchives.co.uk/lloyds-register.html
Click on year interested in - then use "Search" to find vessel or individual
Pob lwc
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Search
https://archive.org/details/@lrfhec?sort=-publicdate
See "More" left column to chase year you are interested in
https://www.maritimearchives.co.uk/lloyds-register.html
Click on year interested in - then use "Search" to find vessel or individual
Pob lwc
Great, thank you!
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Found 2 x"Bramley" in '38(147 tons and 75 tons) + a newspaper report "Bramley, Marshall" in '38.
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Found a reord on FindMyPast for Henry Marshall, born 1814 Shields - one of the ships looks like the Jenny, 1835 voyage. 1835 Lloyds has a Jenny, 82 tons (my earlier effort at Jessy?). His other ships as Captain, 1835-1837, look like Cumberland, Alpha, Salus, Thames (these records often hard to read)
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You might find this useful -
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/abbreviations-merchant-seamens-records/
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Found a reord on FindMyPast for Henry Marshall, born 1814 Shields - one of the ships looks like the Jenny, 1835 voyage. 1835 Lloyds has a Jenny, 82 tons (my earlier effort at Jessy?). His other ships as Captain, 1835-1837, look like Cumberland, Alpha, Salus, Thames (these records often hard to read)
That's interesting, I have found it on FindMyPast. Do you know what the numbers mean? (e.g. for Cumberland it has "Feb '38 75/171")
Thanks for the link to the research guide also! :)
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Found a reord on FindMyPast for Henry Marshall, born 1814 Shields - one of the ships looks like the Jenny, 1835 voyage. 1835 Lloyds has a Jenny, 82 tons (my earlier effort at Jessy?). His other ships as Captain, 1835-1837, look like Cumberland, Alpha, Salus, Thames (these records often hard to read)
That's interesting, I have found it on FindMyPast. Do you know what the numbers mean? (e.g. for Cumberland it has "Feb '38 75/171")
Thanks for the link to the research guide also! :)
That's what the link is for -eg "75/171" identifies the ports sailed from/sailed to. Check the list.
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Found a reord on FindMyPast for Henry Marshall, born 1814 Shields - one of the ships looks like the Jenny, 1835 voyage. 1835 Lloyds has a Jenny, 82 tons (my earlier effort at Jessy?). His other ships as Captain, 1835-1837, look like Cumberland, Alpha, Salus, Thames (these records often hard to read)
That's interesting, I have found it on FindMyPast. Do you know what the numbers mean? (e.g. for Cumberland it has "Feb '38 75/171")
Thanks for the link to the research guide also! :)
That's what the link is for -eg "75/171" identifies the ports sailed from/sailed to. Check the list.
Great, thank you!