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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Heather Walsh on Tuesday 02 December 25 07:07 GMT (UK)
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Hello, I am trying to connect Brunkard family. John Brunkard (a blacksmith) is listed as the father on the marriage of
Elizabeth Brunkard to John Gibson
isabella Brunkard to james Mcmahon
William john Brunkard to anna marie Middleweek, He is Sgt Major William John Brunkard , went to New Zealand, died there in 1876 age 49. Father listed as John Brunkard (a blacksmith), possible mother sarah.
So trying to establish if these Brunkards are siblings, Elizabeth, isabella and william john and trying to find their parents and where they all were born.
If anyone can Help or suggest any idea's it will be greatly appreciated.
kind regards from Heather.
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A record of the proceedings of a Regimental Board (dated 26 March 1868) to verify and record the service, conduct, character and cause of discharge of 1439 (scored out and replaced with 3169) Sergeant William Brunkard states that this William Brunkard was discharged (to pension) at his own request on completion of 21 years service, 7 1/2 years of which was in New Zealand. It also states that he was a weaver born in the parish of Kilmore near the town of Portadown in County Armagh, he attested for the Royal Artillery at Lisburn on 18 February 1847 when he was 20, his intended place of residence on discharge was Auckland, New Zealand.
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The townland given for the 2 girls marriages was Derryhale. I searched Griffiths Valuation (1864) and there’s no sign of a Brunkard family. However there was a house, forge & land on plot 2, occupied by John Wright. Death registration started in Ireland in 1864. There’s no sign of John Brunkard’s death, nor of any spouse. (There are no Brunkard deaths in the Armagh registration area 1864-1901). My guess is that both John and his wife had died prior to 1864, and the forge passed to John Wright.
Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church which, in this case, was Mullavilly Church of Ireland. Their baptism, marriage and burial records start in 1821 (which is possibly when the church opened). There’s a copy of those records in PRONI in Belfast and there is some coverage (years not given) on rootsireland which is subscription. You could search those records for the parents burials and the children's baptisms, though it’s possible Isabella was born before the records start.
Derryhale had about 60 homes in 1864, and only 1 forge. So the likelihood of there being 2 John Brunkards, both blacksmiths, in the same townland at the same time, seems fairly low.
The tithe applotment records of 1833 list a John Brunkard in Cornascrebe townland (more commonly Cornascreeb) which is immediately adjacent to Derryhale, so that may be where the family lived then:
https://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/armagh/tithe-applotments/kilmore-parish.php
Brunkard is not a common name in that area. No Brunkards and no forge in Cornascreeb in Griffiths.
Isabella looks to have remarried in 1875 to Thomas Morgan. She married in a Catholic church, so had probably changed denomination:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1875/11192/8101415.pdf
The certificate states her father was dead by that date.
This may be James McMahon’s death. Informant was Isabella. He was a pensioner which usually implies a military pension:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1874/020646/7244385.pdf
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Thank you, i am sure i seen a john brunkard married to an elizabeth wright somewhere in my searching, i better go looking for that again...................
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John Wright’s death in Derryhale in 1874. There were several Wright households in the townland in the 1901 census (none a blacksmith so that may have been abandoned):
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Richhill/Derryhale/
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yes agree...............yes, i found john brunkard with a daughter elizabeth wright who dies in america...........my johns, elizabeth married the gibson, so that was wrong direction......hee hee
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found isabella in 1901 census, now looking for her death
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found isabella death under surname mcmahon
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found isabella in 1901 census, now looking for her death
URL-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Portadown_Rural/Corcullentreghmore/1028646/
https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/oneilland-west/drumcree/portadown-rural/corcullentragh-more/
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found isabella death under surname mcmahon
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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05614/4578985.pdf
(scroll to bottom - Lurgan SRD, Portadown RD)
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Just for the record, here is the actual image from the Drumcree RC parish registers of the baptismal record for Isabella Brunkard (in preparation for her marriage to Thomas Morgan), the baptism took place on 10 March 1875 (3 days before said marriage), John Brunkard and Eliza Wright were clearly stated as her parents, the sponsor was Mary Catherine Morgan:
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632569#page/51/mode/1up (left page)
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wow Gaffy....wow wow wow ....thank you thank you
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2nd thoughts, still thank you, did she have to be baptised catholic in order to marry?
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It's not something that I'm 100% about, so I'll rely on others to keep me right, but my understanding of Ireland in that era is that a mixed marriage required Papal Dispensation otherwise it wasn't considered valid from the RC Church perspective ... unless the other party first converted to Catholicism (ie. 'problem' solved).
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I also noticed on a subscription website a marriage record for a George Brunkard of 'Cornascribe' who married an Eliza Grundell at Tandragee Presbyterian Church on 22 March 1837, they had a son Robert Brunkard baptised in the same church in 1839, I don't know how they fit into the overall picture. A quick check of the 'Ancestry' website shows several trees for this family, who ended up in Canada from the early 1840s.
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I also noticed on a subscription website a marriage record for a George Brunkard of 'Cornascribe' who married an Eliza Grundell at Tandragee Presbyterian Church on 22 March 1837, they had a son Robert Brunkard baptised in the same church in 1839, I don't know how they fit into the overall picture. A quick check of the 'Ancestry' website shows several trees for this family, who ended up in Canada from the early 1840s.
With the name Brunkard being so rare in that area, I feel it’s very likely that George is part of this same family who we know were in Cornascreeb in the tithes in the 1830s. Tradition being to marry in the bride's church would account for them marrying in Tandragee Presbyterian.
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It's not something that I'm 100% about, so I'll rely on others to keep me right, but my understanding of Ireland in that era is that a mixed marriage required Papal Dispensation otherwise it wasn't considered valid from the RC Church perspective ... unless the other party first converted to Catholicism (ie. 'problem' solved).
All you ever wanted to know about mixed marriages
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09698a.htm (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09698a.htm)