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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: Elliven on Monday 01 December 25 15:18 GMT (UK)
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Robert Lumley (1742-1806) married Mary Wheatley (c1740-1799) According to their gravestone inscription they had 7 children of which 3 died as children and all four of the others died as adults but all were dead by the age of 37. The adult deaths were in Lanchester, Edinburgh, London and Jamaica but all were recorded here.
However, they also had 2 other children but neither is mentioned on the gravestone and I can find only their baptisms with no other details anywhere.
They were: George Lumley, baptised 29th January 1767 and Robert Lumley, baptised 23rd July 1776.
I have no other definite information but it is possible that Robert Lumley was the father of Christopher Lumley who was born c1803 and baptised in Lanchester in May 1806. At the time of his birth, the family lived and farmed at Witton Gilbert which is very close to Lanchester.
Can anyone please help with details of the two "extra" children - George and Robert. Many thanks.
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PCC will of George Wheatley, Clerk of Saint Martin in the Fields , Middlesex
9 January 1799
PROB 11/1318/65
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D347950
Sister Mary Lumley, wife of Robert Lumley of Lanchester, Durham
Names lots of nephews and nieces
Executors nephews Robert Marshall and George Lumley, both clerks
Better still, see a copy of the PCC one in Lancashire wills, starting here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTS3-ZDC
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A Durham will.
Robert LUMLEY, farmer, of Witton Gilbert in the county of Durham
Dated 1 June 1805
Date of probate 18 June 1806
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-63TW-K
Wife Sarah, son Christopher
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Marriage at Jarrow, 29 October 1800
Robert Lumley, of Witton Gilbert
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Sarah Cowans
By licence
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/6833b39c865574fb7a3a53ee
Burial at Lanchester, 18 May 1806
Robert Lumley
Age 65
Farmer of Witton Gilbert
Died 15 May
From the BT, which should be on FS
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/6833bc66865574fb7a3e47e8
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Abstract from the Durham marriage licence (hopefully the original allegation/bond will turn up soon)
28 October 1800
Robert Lumley, Witton Gilbert, 50 (+), widower
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Sarah Cowens, Jarrow, 40 (+), widow
Looks like Thomas Mills was the other bondsman
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DZ89-CDF
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Here's the image of the Lanchester BT for the burial of Robert Lumley, 18 May 1806
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1ZQ-3XH
And the baptism of Christopher Lumley there a week later, 25 May 1806
Born 15 May 1803
Robert a native of Brancepeth
Sarah daughter of Joseph Errington, native of Witton Gilbert
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1ZQ-S9H
England, Durham Diocese, marriage bonds & allegations, 1692-1900
https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/olib:4092055
Annoyingly, I can't find any for 1800 :(
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So in that will George Wheatley of St Martin in the Fields said that if he died in London he desired to be buried at Stanmore in Middlesex.
Was he then the George Wheatley buried at Great Stanmore, 30 December 1798
Abode London
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/64bbcb35f493fd23973b6890
In 1840 at Great Stanmore there is a burial of a George Lumley, age 73.
Could that be his nephew?
LUMLEY, GEORGE
Age at Death (in years): 73
GRO Reference: 1840 D Quarter in SAINT MARTIN IN THE FIELDS Volume 01 Page 112
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Another PCC will!
Will of George Lumley, Wine Merchant of Saint Martin in the Fields, Middlesex
20 January 1841
PROB 11/1939/335
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D68664
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Too late for me to investigate thoroughly tonight, but...
A possible marriage, 16 October 1816, St Mary Newington
Robert Lumley, Bachelor, of St Martin in the Fields
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Jessy Chapman, widow
By licence
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/630d190df493fdd394cd3404
Doubtless find it on ancestry
A baptism of a Robert Wheatley Lumley in Woolwich, 2 July 1820
Parents Robert and Jessey
Abode Westminster
Father a Gentleman
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/683c488b8655740fb9f4612b
A death
LUMLEY, ROBERT WHEATLEY
Age at Death (in years): 26
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in THE GREENWICH UNION Volume 05 Page 218
PCC will
Will of Robert Wheatley Lumley, Coal Merchant of Great Scotland Yard, Middlesex
10 June 1847
PROB 11/2057/389
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D107352
There is also a PCC will for a Robert Lumley in 1837
Will of Robert Lumley, Coal Merchant of Westminster, Middlesex
3 February 1837
PROB 11/1873/3
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D304638
Quick look, wife is Harriet Lumley
Son Robert Wheatley Lumley
A second marriage for Robert then, 29 November 1823, Plumstead
Robert Lumley of St Martin in the Fields, widower
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Harriet Ellis, spinster
By licence
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/683b749f8655740fb9a8b979
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Death notice
Morning Herald, 1 October 1836
At Gloucester, Sept. 20, Mr. Robert Lumley, of Great Scotland-yard, Charing-cross
There is a burial down there for him age 60, which would be spot on.
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Will of George Lumley, Wine Merchant of Saint Martin in the Fields, Middlesex
20 January 1841
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D68664
Says of Suffolk Street in the parish of Saint Martin in the Fields
The 1837 PCC will plus codicil of Robert Lumley, coal merchant, names his nephew Wheatley Lumley of Suffolk Street, Charing Cross and also Robert's brother, George Lumley of Suffolk Street, Charing Cross is mentioned as well!
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Thank you jonwarrn,
You have given me exactly what I wanted. Because of the age difference, I thought Robert (Who died in 1806) was Christopher's grandfather. But this also explains why Robert played no part in running the King's Head inn - he was dead before Sarah took it over.
Elliven
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jonwarrn,
A closer look reveals that Robert Lumley (who died a week before Christopher Lumley was baptised) could not have been Christopher Lumley’s father. This Robert was married to Mary Wheatley but Christopher’s mother’s maiden name was Sarah Errington..
Robert Lumley and Mary Wheatley had a son named Robert who married Sarah Cowans in 1800 so it couldn’t be him either.
The only other possibility is that Robert Lumley (Christopher’s father) was from a different branch of the same family since he and the Robert who died in 1806 were both from Brancepeth, both were farmers and both farmed at nearby Witton Gilbert.
Neville
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Hi
As you said, Robert's wife Mary died in 1799 (19 October)
Burial at Lanchester 21 October 1799
Mary Lumley, age 58
Wife of Robert Lumley, Carpenter
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/6833bc59865574fb7a3e442e
Then Robert Lumley married Sarah Cowans in 1800 at Jarrow.
From the abstract of the licence we know that both Robert and Sarah were widowed.
Which in a way proves it is the same Sarah who gave birth to Christopher, because there is a marriage at Witton Gilbert, 4 January 1783
John Cowans
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Sarah Errington
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/6833f10d865574fb7a521c48
Burial at Witton Gilbert, 13 February 1798
John Cowans, age 49
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/6833f35e865574fb7a53177e
In his will proved in 1806 (which I should have read properly), Robert does name his eldest son George Lumley of Spring Gardens, London.
And if anything should happen to Sarah then George becomes guardian to Christopher.
Sarah Cowans, daughter of Robert's wife by her first husband is also mentioned in Robert's will.
So that will really confirms everything. I do think Robert Lumley junior also went to London, and remember that in his will proved in 1837 he named his brother George, living in Charing Cross.
John