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Title: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: Bunnygirl on Friday 21 November 25 15:18 GMT (UK)
Hi
I'm trying to find the death of Charles Tempest   this is what I know about him so far;
Born 2 Feb 1815 in Shoreditch
Baptized 16 June 1822 St Gregory by St Pauls City of London
Marriage 12 Feb 1843 St John's Bethnal Green to Susannah Gardner Charles occupation a packing case maker
1851 Census Wellington St Shoreditch
1871 census  Shap Street St Leonards Shoreditch Lodger with the Woodhouse family a packing case maker
1881 census Shap Street living alone no Susannah & he says he's single. Susannah seems to have split up with him she dies in 1899 & no mention of him on her death certificate.

I can't find Charles on 1891 census so probably he could have died between 1881 & 91

Any help much appreciated
Bunnygirl

 

Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 21 November 25 18:35 GMT (UK)
Ancestry
Name Charles Tempest Register Type burial
Death Date15 Jul 1882
Burial Date19 Jul 1882
Burial PlaceLewisham, London, England

GRO
TEMPEST, CHARLES    62  
GRO Reference: 1882  S Quarter in LEWISHAM  Volume 01D

Could this be him ?



Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 21 November 25 18:40 GMT (UK)
Possibly not.
Just found a will for Charles Tempest died same date. Solicitor and formerly of Leeds.
Doesn't seem to be your man.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 21 November 25 21:27 GMT (UK)
Could somebody have got his name wrong?
Dec 1881 Shoreditch 1c 115
Tempest, Thomas   
Age 67   

Hard to see that chap in 1881. Did he die in the workhouse?
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 21 November 25 22:13 GMT (UK)
He died of senile decay in  St Leonard's Infirmary Shoreditch. Admitted from
St Leonards Union.
No more details about him.
Definitely something to think about,  but I guess the death certificate wont help much.

So many people dying there about the same time,  it's terrible to think about.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: Bunnygirl on Saturday 22 November 25 05:55 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for all the replies.
I think his death is the 1882 one  I will send for the death certificate and see if that gives any more clues.

Many thanks again
Bunnygirl
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 22 November 25 10:13 GMT (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u3q/

This is the Charles Tempest 15 July 1882.
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 22 November 25 12:30 GMT (UK)
Could somebody have got his name wrong?
Dec 1881 Shoreditch 1c 115
Tempest, Thomas   
Age 67   

Hard to see that chap in 1881. Did he die in the workhouse?

His death is recorded in the "Deaths in the Infirmary" St Leonard's, Shoreditch.

I would have looked at digital record but sods law it's only available as a pdf. I would say it's the correct Tempest with incorrect christian name

SS
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 22 November 25 12:56 GMT (UK)
It's got a nice ring to it, Thomas Tempest! I agree it could just be a mistake by the Shoreditch officials.
There are some more records of the infirmary hidden away on ancestry, the answer may be in those perhaps :-\
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 22 November 25 14:07 GMT (UK)
Reporting from the central library in Ilford!
Shoreditch Infirmary creed register
Admitted 9.7.81
Thomas Tempest
Admitted from 44 Shap St
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31363_A106958-00139
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 22 November 25 14:13 GMT (UK)
Admitted from 44 Shap St

Which was the address of Charles Tempest in the 1881 census
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/7572/records/14984072
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 22 November 25 15:03 GMT (UK)
Well done John, another post bites the dust.

SS
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 22 November 25 15:17 GMT (UK)
Congratulations,  we can sleep soundly tonight. 🙂
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 22 November 25 15:23 GMT (UK)
Congratulations,  we can sleep soundly tonight. 🙂

How did you find him. I searched All London, England, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1738-1926 results for Thomas Tempest, not exact .
He didn't show up.  Was I doing something wrong. 🤔


Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 22 November 25 19:02 GMT (UK)
Congratulations,  we can sleep soundly tonight. 🙂

Hi
Thanks, I am rather relieved myself!
Very few of the records in that database are indexed. So we have to browse the images using the boxes on the right, i.e. select Hackney/Shoreditch/Religious Creed, and you then have a list of films or images to wade through.

Also, ancestry have moved most of the settlement exams to the London Poor Law Removal and Settlement Records, 1698-1922, but not indexed all of them either.
John
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: Bunnygirl on Sunday 23 November 25 06:00 GMT (UK)
Wow many thanks.
So a mistake in his christian name. Yes Shap Street was his last address and he was a packing box maker. I will send for his death certificate to verify all this.

Many Many thanks would not have be able to solve this without you lovely people  :)
Bunnygirl
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: softly softly on Sunday 23 November 25 07:14 GMT (UK)
Do not forget the £3 gro digital image, it will give you all the info you need , can be downloaded straight away after payment

SS
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: Bunnygirl on Sunday 23 November 25 08:04 GMT (UK)
ok will try that
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: softly softly on Sunday 23 November 25 08:08 GMT (UK)
My apologies, this particular image is not available as a digital image only a pdf or full certificate
Sorry

SS
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: Bunnygirl on Sunday 23 November 25 08:15 GMT (UK)
yes. I've just tried too. Have ordered PDF

Nothing is  ever easy!!!

Thanks
Bunnygirl
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: softly softly on Sunday 23 November 25 08:20 GMT (UK)
It would not be fun if everything was easy, but in this case you have a result and closure re Charles

SS
Title: Re: Death of Charles Tempest
Post by: Bunnygirl on Thursday 04 December 25 09:49 GMT (UK)
Thank you jonwarm you are spot on

Now have death certificate & he has been listed as Thomas Tempest .
The Charles Tempest death certificate of 1882  was out of area and not my Charles

Many thanks again for taking the time to find him

Bunnygirl