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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: Silmaril on Thursday 20 November 25 20:56 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I am trying to identify the location of this street - "Canal View" in Tipton. Somewhere in the Tipton / Dudley Port area. I have tried the excellent maps available via National Library of Scotland for a range of dates around 1890's and 1900's but have drawn a blank.
Any help/pointers very welcome.
Thanks
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Without looking into this, and without knowing the context of the address, my first thought is that “Canal View” sounds like a house name rather than a street name.
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Yes, I know what you mean, except see attached ...
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I have also looked at various maps and census routes and failed to tie down where exactly Canal View was. My best guess is that it was a named terrace within a longer street, probably Park Lane East. Here are three versions of the address from various newspaper items:
1964 Canal View, Park Estate
1943 Canal View, Park Lane East
1920 Canal View, Park Lane West [possible error, I have not located Park Lane West]
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I agree Alan - it could very well be a Terrace.
It can help to narrow down an address if you follow the enumerator’s route on a census, to narrow down the approximate location. You may need to check numerous streets in the vicinity and if lucky locate a landmark that still exists today, which can be of help.
If Alan’s theory is correct and the houses are still standing, look on google maps - sometimes the name of the terrace or row of houses is marked on a nameplate. I’ve seen this a number of times.
If you haven’t already done so, locate them on other censuses in case they are at the same address, keeping in mind that if this is a terrace, other censuses may give the street name rather than the terrace name, so you should check surrounding areas to clarify.
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I googled, “Bath Road, Dudley Port, Tipton” and up popped a map. Bath Road isn’t a long road, and it leads to a canal.
It may be worth going back to the NLS maps and look for Bath Road to give you a starting point. Maybe “Canal View” is a terrace or some kind of dwelling on Bath Road?
What is the document you posted an image of? What road comes after Canal View?
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I had a quick look at Bath Road on a few old ordnance survey maps, and there aren’t a great number of buildings on the road. Unfortunately none are named. Nearby roads include Martin Road which runs off Bath Road. One map shows an unnamed road running off that. Also Colbourne Road which is quite close to the canal. Hard to know if the buildings are residential or commercial.
Further delving advisable.
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Found it!
on this 1:1250 OS map 1965/1966
https://maps.nls.uk/view/210963002#zoom=4.4&lat=7753&lon=5477&layers=BT
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Wow !
I did not consider looking at the later maps thinking that urban development would lose any trace of it. That is fantastic, thank you very much and to all contributors.
My interest in the address is related to the drowning in the canal of my g. g. grandmother Sophia Clarke in 1903 when a contemporary newspaper report states that on identification of the body, her son William commented that Sophia had been visiting a woman (sur)named Norman "near the reservoir" and I had found a household of two sisters (Hannah and Jane Norman) living at 19 Canal View in the 1911 census summaries. This is the document above.
Many thanks again!
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On this 25 inch map 1938/1947, notice how Canal View (not labelled) is just to the west of a canal basin that is at the end of a canal labelled as 'Dixon's Branch", running off the map to the NE. Also note that there is another long narrow basin running off from the Dixon's Branch, and located across the main canal and railway to the NE of Canal View.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/115476004#zoom=5.1&lat=9490&lon=14635&layers=BT
Now go here:
https://captainahabswaterytales.blogspot.com/2020/04/dixon-branch.html
and scroll down to the 6th image, an aerial photo captioned "Dixon's Junction and Station St Bridge...". The railway and main canal run from the bottom middle of the photo diagonally to the left. You can make out the long narrow basin and on the other side of the main canal, to the left of the photo a row of houses lit up by the sun and parallel to the canal: Canal View.
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her son William commented that Sophia had been visiting a woman (sur)named Norman "near the reservoir" and I had found a household of two sisters (Hannah and Jane Norman) living at 19 Canal View in the 1911 census summaries.
Perhaps ‘the reservoir’ was the local name for the terminal basin?