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Title: Who Was Murray Scott of Whickham?
Post by: JackB015725 on Wednesday 19 November 25 18:04 GMT (UK)
Hi,
 
On the 29th January 1797, Isabella Scott or Milburn was baptised in Whickham, near Gateshead, in Durham.

The last name on the original record "Scott or Milburn" was to show that she was an illegitimate child.

I think this Isabella Scott was the same Isabella Scott who married Thomas Blenkinsop (1797-1840) on the 28th June 1818, in St. Paul, Jarrow, Durham, England; although I am not sure about this as there was many people called Isabella Scott in Durham at the time.

On the baptism entry for Isabella Scott or Milburn, the parents were given as:- Isabella Milburn and Murray Scott. However, I have been unable to find a baptism for a Murray Scott that occured in Durham in the 1700s at all!

So the question remains; who was Murray Scott?

I would gladly appreciate all help given to me in trying to find more about Murray Scott and who he was.

Thank you,

JackB
Title: Re: Who Was Murray Scott of Whickham?
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 19 November 25 19:26 GMT (UK)
Are you assuming Murray Scott was born in Whickham or do you have any proof that he was?

Isabella was b 1797 so Murray could be assumed to be born 1770 (ish) but not necessarily in Durham
Title: Re: Who Was Murray Scott of Whickham?
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 19 November 25 21:14 GMT (UK)
Presumably you have seen the original baptism entry?

Have you found a marriage for Isabella and Murray? If so have you seen the original marriage entry?

Did Isabella and Murray have any other children? Have you seen their baptism entries?

What was Murray’s occupation? Have you followed him in Durham in case there are some records of his employment or maybe some kind of business?

Just a few thoughts of some records which might indicate Murray’s origins, particularly if there are children born within the Shute Barrington time frame - those baptismal records are a goldmine, and would be my first port of call.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Who Was Murray Scott of Whickham?
Post by: jonwarrn on Wednesday 19 November 25 21:21 GMT (UK)
BT is on FamilySearch
right hand page, 5 from bottom
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XCH3-PW8
Title: Re: Who Was Murray Scott of Whickham?
Post by: JackB015725 on Wednesday 19 November 25 22:30 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I originally saw the baptismal record on Find my Past, and I could not find any other parish records from that time in Durham that mentioned a Murray Scott.

I have had a little look on Durham Records Online and could only find one record (the one for Isabella), although I may need to have a more in depth look.

Thank you,

JackB
Title: Re: Who Was Murray Scott of Whickham?
Post by: amondg on Thursday 20 November 25 02:38 GMT (UK)
Evan though the father is known, Isabella is illegitimate so wouldn't she be Isabella Milburn the same as her mother.
Alternately she could go by both names.
Title: Re: Who Was Murray Scott of Whickham?
Post by: amondg on Thursday 20 November 25 03:15 GMT (UK)
The original marriage entry witnesses are William Jameson and Jane Dodds.

They or other family members sign the majority of the marriages, so they don't appear to be relatives.
28 June 1818 Jarrow.

Ref: FindMyPast

Where are you finding Isabella Blenkinsop in 1841.
Title: Re: Who Was Murray Scott of Whickham?
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 20 November 25 08:41 GMT (UK)
Evan though the father is known, Isabella is illegitimate so wouldn't she be Isabella Milburn the same as her mother.
Alternately she could go by both names.

You’d expect her to be Milburn - presumably Murray knew she was his child and wanted her baptised under his name as well.
Title: Re: Who Was Murray Scott of Whickham?
Post by: amondg on Thursday 20 November 25 10:48 GMT (UK)
Was he required to be there at the ceremony?

Could Isabella given the information that was included in the record without him being present?
Title: Re: Who Was Murray Scott of Whickham?
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 21 November 25 07:33 GMT (UK)
Was he required to be there at the ceremony?

Could Isabella given the information that was included in the record without him being present?

When the printed register books were introduced in 1812 my understanding is that the father needed to be present to register a birth if the child was illegitimate, but I’m not sure of the requirements for baptisms prior to that. Advise checking though.