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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00100rd
The Nuremberg Military Tribunal began on 20th November 1945 and ran until 1st October 1946.
It was a dramatic, ground-breaking trial which aimed to bring evidence-based courtroom justice to some of the most high-ranking Nazi officials. In doing so it began the evolution of international criminal law.
The lead British prosecutor at Nuremberg was Sir Hartley Shawcross.
As a boy his son William listened to 78rpm recordings of his father's potent and poignant closing speech at the trial.
These recordings had a powerful effect on him.
In this programme William Shawcross revisits those recordings and explores the ways those brought together by the trial spoke about it to their children -- or in some cases never spoke about it at all.
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What should we expect from a father?
Moral Maze
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002m0cq
This year’s John Lewis Christmas advert puts an emotional focus on a father-son relationship. It shows a dad and his teenage boy struggling to put their feelings into words. It points to what many observe as a wider crisis in fatherhood. Numerous studies suggest that an involved father significantly improves a child's life chances. However, in the UK, a teenager is more likely to own a mobile phone than live with their dad, according to a 2025 report from the Centre for Social Justice.
The reasons are complex. Traditionalists cite changing gender roles leading to conflicting societal expectations on men and a confusion of male identity. Progressives suggest the pressure on dads to be strong for their family, both financially and emotionally, makes it difficult for them to demonstrate vulnerability, and that leads to guilt, stress and burnout. Youth workers report how the lack of a male role model at home can make space for other damaging influences - in the real world and online, in gangs and in the “manosphere” - pushing a very narrow definition of masculinity, and begetting more ill-equipped fathers.
What should be the role of a father, practically, emotionally and morally? How, if at all, should it be different from that of the mother? Do we expect too much or too little of fathers? Do children always need fathers in their lives? How should we address the ‘rinse-and-repeat’ cycle of absent fathers?
Chair: Julie Etchingham
Panel: Carmody Grey, Giles Fraser, Anne McElvoy and James Orr.
Witnesses: Tony Rucinski, Genevieve Roberts, Anton Noble, Ed Davies.
Producer: Dan Tierney.
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By a great coincidence on T,V. this afternoon was the film”Judgement at Nuremberg”. A fact based courtroom story depicting the Nuremberg trials
where Nazis faced the death penalty.
It was riveting ,I have seen it before but was worth watching again.
Now a small scrap of material from Hitler’s bunker has been analysed ,getting his DNA from blood stains.
It was from the couch where presumably he spot himself when the Russians were closing in .
Typically cowardly.
Thankyou for the reminder / notification of “The Moral Maze “.
Viktoria.
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VIKTORIA,
Thankyou for your response.
My friend's father was a translator at this notable trial, but whilst I have researched his interesting life as missionary with a German organisation in India, I have not been able to get her interested in his family history!
I shall now try to find ' film”Judgement at Nuremberg'.
I have just missed this on Channel4+1 but will try to catch it on catch-up.
Hitler’s DNA: Blueprint of a Dictator - Series 1: Episode 1 | Channel 4
Hitler’s DNA: Blueprint of a Dictator
Episode 1
What does Hitler’s DNA reveal about the 80-year-old rumours of a Jewish relative? The experts also explore the likelihood in Hitler's formative years of both ADHD and autism.
Watch new episode from Sat 22 Nov
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The film starred -Spencer Tracey as presiding Judge ,Burt Lancaster ,Marlene Dietrich and Richard Widmark .
I can remember the scenes on Pathe News at the cinema,my Mum took me to a matinee of a “U” certificate ie suitable for children -BUT - the newsreel was horrific ,scenes from our troops entering Belsen and Buchenwald.
It was unbelievable ,yet there it was .
I can hear the gasps of horror that ran through the cinema goers still.
How sad your friend is not interested ,such momentous happenings .
I worked on a premature baby unit at a big local hospital ,one other nurse was Jewish and had a long number tattooed on her left inner arm .She had been in a concentration camp ,was about 30, this in 1959.
The hospital was not far from area of Manchester where many Jewish people had settled ,where sadly the recent attack on a Synagogue took place during a Holy Festival .
Viktoria.
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What is sad is that the leaders of so many of the Countries on this planet have not learned from the past.
Or if they have learned they have decided that the oppression and persecution of its citizens and of its neighbours is the way it is to be.
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The film starred -Spencer Tracey as presiding Judge....
Spencer Tracy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Tracy
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What is sad is that the leaders of so many of the Countries on this planet have not learned from the past.
Or if they have learned they have decided that the oppression and persecution of its citizens and of its neighbours is the way it is to be.
BIGGLES,
Indeed!
Useful background to the few defendants on trial:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judges%27_Trial
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The Nature of Freedom?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ub_Nb772VA
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002m0ny
Lea Ypi
Lea Ypi, a professor of political theory at the London School of Economics, grew up in Albania under communism, when it was the last Stalinist outpost in Europe.
She was 10 years old when the Berlin Wall fell, and a year later she saw the collapse of communism in Albania. Statues of Stalin and Enver Hoxha, the country’s leader for 40 years, were toppled. Democratic elections followed - but so did civil unrest.
Lea wrote about these turbulent years in her book Free, which won prizes and widespread acclaim: 'essential - just as much for Britons as Albanians' according to one critic.
She has delved further into her family history, looking into the past of her grandmother, in her book Indignity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lea_Ypi
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Thanks ,Kiltaglassan , my error.
Viktoria.