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Title: What happened to Phyllis Craker Tomkins after her husband died in 1941?
Post by: Darnity on Saturday 15 November 25 16:58 GMT (UK)
Phyllis May Craker was one of five young daughters that Florence Ada Craker, nee Whitlock, was left to bring up when her husband Ernest was killed in France in 1918.

Phyllis' dob from 1939 shows as 25 Oct 1913.

I've found Phyllis marrying Charles W Tomkins in 1938 and they are in Windsor Street in Bletchley (now Milton Keynes) when the 1939 register is taken. They had a son Alan in 1939 (who died 2012).

I can't find any death for Phyllis but searching today I think I've found that her husband Charles may have been a WWII casualty - how awful hardly knowing her father because of war and then losing her husband to it - dying in 1941.

I'm wondering if Phyllis subsequently remarries and that's why I'm not finding her death as Phyllis Tomkins but I've so far failed to find a suitable marriage and her death.

If someone would like the challenge of finding what happens to Phyllis after September 1939 I'd be very grateful.
Title: Re: What happened to Phyllis Craker Tomkins after her husband died in 1941?
Post by: tazzie on Saturday 15 November 25 17:36 GMT (UK)
Hi.

 The newspaper report is for Charles William Tomkins and yes his wife Phyllis Craker. He was a marine and posted as missing believed killed in the middle east. He was 28 and worked for London brick company his father was also killed in the First World War.
Title: Re: What happened to Phyllis Craker Tomkins after her husband died in 1941?
Post by: AllanUK on Saturday 15 November 25 17:43 GMT (UK)
Four possible marriages registered for a Phyllis M Tomkins ...

Basingstoke District, Quarter 4, 1943, Peter Moore

Brentford District, Quarter 3, 1944, Jean D. Denereaz

Bristol District, Quarter 1, 1945, Albert L. Jolliffe

Oxford District, Quarter 1, 1948, Ronald R. Piper
Title: Re: What happened to Phyllis Craker Tomkins after her husband died in 1941?
Post by: tazzie on Saturday 15 November 25 17:45 GMT (UK)
Phyllis M Tomkins is still on election roll through to 1971 that I can see so far

  Tazzie
Title: Re: What happened to Phyllis Craker Tomkins after her husband died in 1941?
Post by: AllanUK on Saturday 15 November 25 17:59 GMT (UK)
Today, Darnity said I've found Phyllis marrying Charles W Tomkins in 1938 and they are in Windsor Street in Bletchley (now Milton Keynes) when the 1939 register is taken.

Electoral Rolls for 2002 shows ... Phyllis M. Tomkins, 57 Windsor Street, Milton Keynes

Title: Re: What happened to Phyllis Craker Tomkins after her husband died in 1941?
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 15 November 25 18:12 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: What happened to Phyllis Craker Tomkins after her husband died in 1941?
Post by: coombs on Saturday 15 November 25 18:20 GMT (UK)
A Phyllis May Dickens died in the first quarter of 1983, in Birmingham. Vol 32, page 1548.  Born 25 Oct 1913.

These civil reg death indexes are searchable by DOB from 1969 onwards but the deaths only go up to 2007.

Title: Re: What happened to Phyllis Craker Tomkins after her husband died in 1941?
Post by: tazzie on Saturday 15 November 25 18:32 GMT (UK)
She could be nee Betteridge there is a marriage in Birmingham in 1933.
 A Phyllis M Betteridge born Kings Norton Warwickshire 1913.


Tazzie
Title: Re: What happened to Phyllis Craker Tomkins after her husband died in 1941?
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 15 November 25 18:33 GMT (UK)
Isn’t it this one ?

TOMKINS, PHYLLIS  MAY     1913 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q2/2007 in MILTON KEYNES  (3261A)  Reg 1A001  Entry Number 500151527
Title: Re: What happened to Phyllis Craker Tomkins after her husband died in 1941?
Post by: tazzie on Saturday 15 November 25 18:45 GMT (UK)
Well done. I am having probs on GRO records and she doesn't show on Ancestry. I've even check local papers but only found Alan.

 Tazzie
Title: Re: What happened to Phyllis Craker Tomkins after her husband died in 1941?
Post by: Darnity on Sunday 16 November 25 11:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks all, so it looks like she remained in Bletchley and didn't remarry.

I had followed the possible Piper marriage and knew it wasn't that one.

Thanks everyone for your efforts with this.

I do like to "kill off" everyone on my tree - the five Craker girls were my grandmother's cousins.

Thanks again.

Title: Re: What happened to Phyllis Craker Tomkins after her husband died in 1941?
Post by: jonwarrn on Sunday 16 November 25 12:14 GMT (UK)
She may have left a will?
Phyllis May Tomkins, died 21 April 2007
Probate 25 October 2007, Newcastle upon Tyne.

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