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Title: Victoria Cross given to soldiers in the Indian Army
Post by: iris moore guilbert on Friday 16 September 05 10:26 BST (UK)
 HI
 I am trying to find out about the Victoria Cross it was given to, for being the first over the Great Wall of China in the Boxer Rising .  The Soldiers name was  Peter Dunbar or his brother, whom I don't know his first name  They later left the army  and brought land ibn Toowoomba in Australia and the  lower Lake Heron Estate in New Zealand.

Their sister name was Isabella Dunbar who married George Helem born in Borderlands Scotland , they sailed to New Zealand  and there first child was born at sea , her name was Jessie Isabel  Helm , she is my great grandmother  so that make Isabella my great great grandmother   thanks   Iris
Title: Re: Victoria Cross given to soldiers in the Indian Army
Post by: C P Rayson on Friday 16 September 05 10:57 BST (UK)
Hi Iris

You could try http://www.victoriacross.net/default.asp or a web search for Victoria Cross Holders

Happy Hunting

Chris
Title: Re: Victoria Cross given to soldiers in the Indian Army
Post by: jorose on Friday 16 September 05 11:59 BST (UK)
All the Victoria Cross recipients are listed on that site that Lacie gave, and there are no Dunbars; perhaps he recieved a different medal?  If you search http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/ it seems that Piper-Sergeant C. Dunbar (of the Gordon Highlanders) recieved the Distinguished Conduct Medal, 27 Sep 1901.  From the looks of things, though, this would have been from the Boer War, not the Boxer Rising.
Title: Re: Victoria Cross given to soldiers in the Indian Army
Post by: iris moore guilbert on Sunday 18 September 05 04:14 BST (UK)
  Hi Jorose, 
have spent all day it feels like trying to follow up on the info you gave me  :o.  Having trouble getting into gazette-online.co.uk   can't even find list of who receieved medals
  Did get a print out os DCM for the WWI  but can't find anything re medals on the Boer War.  Did find a lot of interesting reading so that is why it is taking so long.   
Thanks for your help.  Iris   New Zealand  :D
Title: Re: Victoria Cross given to soldiers in the Indian Army
Post by: liverpool annie on Sunday 18 September 05 05:15 BST (UK)


Hi Iris!

Seems like these two men received the VC for the Boxer Rising but they are not Dunbar!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_John_Douglas_Guy

http://www.victoriacross.net/award.asp?vc=512

Here's the Boxer Rising Medal!!

http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/claremuseum/riches_of_clare/water/boxer_medal.htm

http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/claremuseum/riches_of_clare/water/boxer_medal_lge.htm

Annie
Title: Re: Victoria Cross given to soldiers in the Indian Army
Post by: iris moore guilbert on Monday 19 September 05 03:24 BST (UK)
 :D  Thanks Annie 
I will carry on looking.   Sometimes it just takes a bit of effort.  So thank you for your time
I will try to follow the Piper Sargeant C Dunbar   and see where that leads    Thanks all 
 :P  Iris  New Zealand
Title: Re: Victoria Cross given to soldiers in the Indian Army
Post by: manmack on Tuesday 20 September 05 02:41 BST (UK)
iris,i have the full roll for the victoria cross and theres no dunbar amongst them,jorose is right about piper/sgt c.dunbar winning the DCM,he won it at elandslaagte in the boer war on 21-10-1899,its mentioned in the london gazette on the 27-9-1901,he was in the 2nd battalion,gordon highlanders,his regimental number was 5338,dunbar is a scottish name so jorose may have got your man for you,no dunbars won the DCM in the china war,good luck,mack
Title: Re: Victoria Cross given to soldiers in the Indian Army
Post by: iris moore guilbert on Wednesday 21 September 05 20:46 BST (UK)
 Mack

Thank you,  you are fantastic.  I haven't been able to get into the gazette.  Will keep trying   but really appreciate your help .  Next thing to look at is immigration to NZfrom Scottand .  Can you point me in the right direction.  Have a great week  cheers Iris NZ