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Title: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: TomGad on Tuesday 11 November 25 14:32 GMT (UK)
Thomas Wells was baptised on November 28th 1790 in Lower Heyford to his parents William and Mary Wells.

Thomas married Sarah Ebbern also in Lower Heyford on December 5th 1811.

In the presence of them was John Wells (presumebly some relation to Thomas) and Esther Castel.

I cannot find a death for Thomas or Sarah however and cannot find any other records for them either apart from their 2 Children’s baptisms.

Mary Wells in 1812 and Susanna Wells in 1814. All in Lower Heyford.

Can anybody find any death for Thomas or Sarah? Many thanks
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 11 November 25 19:09 GMT (UK)
Have you looked for Thomas & Sarah on the 1841/51 census to narrow down any search for their deaths?

Who did Mary & Susanna marry & when?  Did they marry in Oxfordshire?
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: TomGad on Tuesday 11 November 25 19:14 GMT (UK)
Have you looked for Thomas & Sarah on the 1841/51 census?

Who did Mary & Susanna marry & when

I have tried looking for them in those census’ with no avail. Susanna never got married I do not believe but her she had many children with her boyfriend Richard Gadney. Mary married a man by the name of Uriah Hain.
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 11 November 25 21:32 GMT (UK)
If they only had the two children that might indicate one or both parents died soon after. 

Have you looked for a remarriage for Sarah Wells?
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: TomGad on Tuesday 11 November 25 21:54 GMT (UK)
If they only had the two children that might indicate one or both parents died soon after. 

Have you looked for a remarriage for Sarah Wells?

I havent looked for a remarriage of Sarah. I will have a look and see what I find.
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: TomGad on Wednesday 12 November 25 07:38 GMT (UK)
If they only had the two children that might indicate one or both parents died soon after. 

Have you looked for a remarriage for Sarah Wells?

I had a look for a remarriage and nothing showed up for me. So I dont think she remarried.
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: TomGad on Monday 17 November 25 15:10 GMT (UK)
Still need help with this
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 17 November 25 16:08 GMT (UK)
Where have you searched for this information
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: TomGad on Monday 17 November 25 16:14 GMT (UK)
Where have you searched for this information

Ancestry
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 17 November 25 16:22 GMT (UK)
Familysearch and FindMyPast are both free to search, we would only be looking at the same resources.

What information did Mary's marriage to Uriah give for her father and who were the witnesses.

Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: TomGad on Monday 17 November 25 16:25 GMT (UK)
Familysearch and FindMyPast are both free to search, we would only be looking at the same resources.

What information did Mary's marriage to Uriah give for her father and who were the witnesses.

He’s listed as Thomas Wells, Boatman and the witnesses are George and Hester Coney.
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 17 November 25 17:43 GMT (UK)
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Susanna never got married I do not believe but her she had many children with her boyfriend Richard Gadney.

Where the children registered as Gadney or Wells?  What were their names & birthyears?
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: TomGad on Monday 17 November 25 18:22 GMT (UK)
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Susanna never got married I do not believe but her she had many children with her boyfriend Richard Gadney.

Where the children registered as Gadney or Wells?  What were their names & birthyears?

They were all registered Gadney.

Their first child in 1838 and their last in 1854. All registered Gadney

On every one of their birth certificates it says Susannah Gadney formerly Wells
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 17 November 25 18:35 GMT (UK)
No names included in reply above - is this the right 1851 entry?  All b Oxfordshire

Richard Gadney 47 shoemaker
Susan 38    Wife
Thomas 13
Alfred  11
Harriett 9
John 7
Mary 5
Sarah 2
Piece 1727 Folio 347 Page 21

Civil reg was only introduced 1.7.1837 so the marriage may have been beforehand & therefore not in the GRO index.
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 17 November 25 18:44 GMT (UK)
The 1841 has Richard as Joseph & 2 sons born before 1837 who cannot be Susan's given their ages.

Joseph Gadney 35 shoemaker
Susan 25
Joseph 14
William 12
Thomas 3
Alfred 1

Piece 891 Book 2 Folio 5   Page 22

Richard/Joseph may possibly have been married to Mary Moore who died as Mary Gadney in 1832 aged 28.  On son Joseph's 1859 marriage cert - his father is shown as Richard Joseph occ shoemaker
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: TomGad on Monday 17 November 25 19:05 GMT (UK)
No names included in reply above - is this the right 1851 entry?  All b Oxfordshire

Richard Gadney 47 shoemaker
Susan 38    Wife
Thomas 13
Alfred  11
Harriett 9
John 7
Mary 5
Sarah 2
Piece 1727 Folio 347 Page 21

Civil reg was only introduced 1.7.1837 so the marriage may have been beforehand & therefore not in the GRO index.

Only missing two. Richard born in 1851 and Francis in 54.
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 17 November 25 19:13 GMT (UK)
Born after the 1851 census was taken
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: TomGad on Monday 17 November 25 19:17 GMT (UK)
Born after the 1851 census was taken

Yes
Title: Re: Thomas Wells, Can’t find death record
Post by: amondg on Monday 17 November 25 20:12 GMT (UK)
There is a History of Upper Heyford Society, the page for Lower Heyford is not working.

However perhaps they can help with suggestions and or contacts in the area to help you.

Or The Oxford Records Office