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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: jettejjane on Tuesday 11 November 25 11:32 GMT (UK)
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After many years of looking for confirmation of the death of Hannah Redman formerly Brockhurst, unconfirmed dob 1775.death around 1802. And getting a lot of false info from other trees, which I took as true with no proof. I decided to go through all my records to see if I had missed anything and I had .
I have now made a small hole in my brick wall, with help from a fellow rootschatter.
Her uncle Benjamin Knight left a will in 1804 and left monies to her 4 children stating they were children of his late niece Hannah Redman. So from this info she died before 1804 which makes 1802 death possible. Sadly I still can’t find any death records. Hannah’s parents were William Brockhurst and Hannah Knight.
In my previous searches I stupidly kept looking for a Hannah Brockhurst not Redman. I have also realised I have done similar when looking for another female death.
Any information on death and then Knight family be gratefully received.
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The only death I can find on FreeREG for a Hannah Redman is ST Swithin, Kirklington, Nottinghamshire. 6th June 1804 Burial. Was her uncle's death later this year?
Regards.
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https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=894911.msg7693554#msg7693554
mentions uncle's will
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Will proved 1806 so presumably uncle died that year. Will written 24 Aug 1804. Maybe uncle changed his will then because he heard Hannah had died.
Need to find when her husband Edward Redman remarried
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related
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=894911.msg7693554#msg7693554
mentions uncle's will
Yes that’s my post but this is a different search.
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related
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=894911.msg7693554#msg7693554
mentions uncle's will
Yes that’s my post but this is a different search.
Yes but it gives details of how to find the will so that other people stop wasting time doing the search again if they don't know about the previous post
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Will proved 1806 so presumably uncle died that year. Will written 24 Aug 1804. Maybe uncle changed his will then because he heard Hannah had died.
Need to find when her husband Edward Redman remarried
Her husband Edward re married Jane Greenfield in 1804 in Billingshurst they had 7 children and emigrated to US in 1820 and settled in Posey Indiana.
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Will proved 1806 so presumably uncle died that year. Will written 24 Aug 1804. Maybe uncle changed his will then because he heard Hannah had died.
Need to find when her husband Edward Redman remarried
Her husband Edward re married Jane Greenfield in 1804 in Billingshurst they had 7 children and emigrated to US in 1820 and settled in Posey Indiana.
Actual date of marriage is 10 Jun 1804 a few days after the Hannah in Notts died
Interesting !
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The only death I can find on FreeREG for a Hannah Redman is ST Swithin, Kirklington, Nottinghamshire. 6th June 1804 Burial. Was her uncle's death later this year?
Regards.
There are two Hannah Redmans baptised in Kirklington who might be her. I haven't checked any Mr Redmans who might have married a Hannah. So i don.t think it's the one we're after
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Hannah Redman is her married name. At birth she is Hannah Brockhurst born in Billingshurst according to marriage document.
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Ancestry.
England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1936
Horsham.
Has Details of Baptisms of children of Hannah and Edward Redman. Also from his second wife Jane.
Geneanet has a death for Hannah Redman 2 April 1802 Horsham. ?
You might already have this.
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Ancestry.
England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1936
Horsham.
Has Details of Baptisms of children of Hannah and Edward Redman. Also from his second wife Jane.
Geneanet has a death for Hannah Redman 2 April 1802 Horsham. ?
You might already have this.
Baptisms?
The birthdates of all children have already been found - see link to other thread I posted earlier.
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Ancestry.
England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1936
Horsham.
Has Details of Baptisms of children of Hannah and Edward Redman. Also from his second wife Jane.
Geneanet has a death for Hannah Redman 2 April 1802 Horsham. ?
You might already have this.
Yes I have this but thanks anyway.
All I want is death date . At least from the will of her uncle I now know she has actually died. For years I have been searching for her death not knowing if she just disappeared or did die.
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Geneanet has a death for Hannah Redman 2 April 1802 Horsham. ?
Ancestry has PRs for Horsham St Mary. Burials on 1st April 1802 and 10th April 1802 - nothing in between.
Her family seem to have been from Billingshurst, but Ancestry only has baptism records covering the period 1799 to 1804.
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Her family seem to have been from Billingshurst, but Ancestry only has baptism records covering the period 1799 to 1804.
Just discovered Ancestry has a separate set called Billingshurst in Woollen - as if it was a place name.
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Ancestry.
England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1936
Horsham.
Has Details of Baptisms of children of Hannah and Edward Redman. Also from his second wife Jane.
Geneanet has a death for Hannah Redman 2 April 1802 Horsham. ?
You might already have this.
Me again, lol. Been mulling this over and wondering if you could send me details of the death you found. All I found were deaths on family trees but with no documentary support.
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Just discovered Ancestry has a separate set called Billingshurst in Woollen - as if it was a place name.
Not come across Woollen but Billingshurst is surrounded by small settlements and villages.
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Just discovered Ancestry has a separate set called Billingshurst in Woollen - as if it was a place name.
Not come across Woollen but Billingshurst is surrounded by small settlements and villages.
Woollen refers to woollen shrouds, you often see "buried in woollen" after the name and date of the deceased. Ancestry clearly think Woollen is part a place name ( Billingshurst in Woollen) - like Pool in Wharfedale, Bilton in (the) Ainsty etc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burying_in_Woollen_Acts
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I found Hannah Redman on a Ancestry tree, klMorrow. There is no burial information.
But it must come from somewhere.
Hannah Brockhurst
BIRTH ABT. 1765 • Sussex, England
DEATH 23 APR 1802 •
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Just discovered Ancestry has a separate set called Billingshurst in Woollen - as if it was a place name.
Not come across Woollen but Billingshurst is surrounded by small settlements and villages.
Woollen refers to woollen shrouds, you often see "buried in woollen" after the name and date of the deceased. Ancestry clearly think Woollen is part a place name ( Billingshurst in Woollen) - like Pool in Wharfedale, Bilton in (the) Ainsty etc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burying_in_Woollen_Acts
That’s very interesting thanks. And very confusing for researchers who see death iin Woollen and then look for a place called Woollen which doesn’t exist.
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I found Hannah Redman on a Ancestry tree, klMorrow. There is no burial information.
But it must come from somewhere.
Hannah Brockhurst
BIRTH ABT. 1765 • Sussex, England
DEATH 23 APR 1802 •
Thanks. I have learnt the hard way that although info on trees sounds ok it must be backed up with concrete proof. So many people take info from other trees thinking it’s true . Many years ago I was one of those people.
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I found Hannah Redman on a Ancestry tree, klMorrow. There is no burial information.
But it must come from somewhere.
Hannah Brockhurst
BIRTH ABT. 1765 • Sussex, England
DEATH 23 APR 1802 •
Not in Horsham. I burial on that date - James Cumber - a child
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I transcribed a Nonconformist register from late 1700s to late 1800s, it was a Wern Chapel in Minera. It had it's own burial ground attached. People from villages a distance away used it. I would consider looking for Chapels in your area with burial grounds. It's difficult as my family were Nonconformist also.
This might be worth a pot. It seems to include burials, but you could ask first.
Maybe there are members on this Sussex page.
https://sfhg.uk/shop/reference-general-interest/county-wide-records/non-conformist-records#
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Ancestry NON CONFORMIST
Piece 2729: Horsham General Baptist Chapel, 1688, 1706-1836
Hannah Redman Birth Date 30 Dec 1795 Sussex,
Denomination General Baptist Father Edward Redman Mother Hannah Redman
It doesn`t look like burials have been digitised .
Distance to Billinghurst c 7 miles.
https://www.thechapelatbillingshurst.com/history
In the 1750s the Baptist Chapel was established and in the early 1800s the Congregational Chapel was founded. The chapel has a large graveyard to the front and side.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billingshurst_Unitarian_Chapel
The cottage-like building was erected in 1754 for General Baptists, hence its original name of the Billingshurst General Baptist Chapel
The chapel, also known as the Billingshurst Unitarian and Free Christian Church, is one of the oldest Nonconformist places of worship in the district of Horsham—
Could Hannah be here ?
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Ancestry NON CONFORMIST
Piece 2729: Horsham General Baptist Chapel, 1688, 1706-1836
Hannah Redman Birth Date 30 Dec 1795 Sussex,
Denomination General Baptist Father Edward Redman Mother Hannah Redman
It doesn`t look like burials have been digitised .
Distance to Billinghurst c 7 miles.
https://www.thechapelatbillingshurst.com/history
In the 1750s the Baptist Chapel was established and in the early 1800s the Congregational Chapel was founded. The chapel has a large graveyard to the front and side.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billingshurst_Unitarian_Chapel
The cottage-like building was erected in 1754 for General Baptists, hence its original name of the Billingshurst General Baptist Chapel
The chapel, also known as the Billingshurst Unitarian and Free Christian Church, is one of the oldest Nonconformist places of worship in the district of Horsham—
Could Hannah be here ?
Yes very possible.