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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: Helina on Monday 10 November 25 13:17 GMT (UK)
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I am hoping someone could kindly tell me what to do next?
William Charles Trott born 1841 Bristol, married Elizabeth Coole in 1866. Parents John and Charlotte Trott.
In 1858 William was an apprentice to a Mr Frederick Green to learn to become an Ship Carpenter. On the 1871 he is now a Ship Carpenter.
I can find no information afterwards, his wife Elizabeth also disappears until 1891 when she is a widow.
I have now come across this information on ancestry and just wandered if it could be the William I am looking for and how do I find out?
"William Trott, record type Crew. Birth year 1843, birth place Bristol. Vessel name Joseph H Scammell, vessel type ship.
Voyage departure date 29 Sept 1884, voyage port Saint John, New Brunswick Canada. Voyage arrival date, 25 October 1884, arrival port Liverpool, vessel reg no j884033, vessel reg place St John New Brunswick, year constructed 1884.
Date joined ship 29 Sept 1884, joined at Saint John New Brunswick, Crew no 12.
Discharged 25 October 1884. Rank Able bodied Seaman"
William has been on the brick wall list for a number of years with no luck.
Any help would be appreciated
helina
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Is this the same William C Trott?
William C Trott
Admission Age 61
Discharge Age 61
Admission Date 13 Jan 1904
Admission Place Islington, Islington, City of London, England
Discharge Date 14 Jan 1904
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Ladyhawk, A possibility, I'll copy the record in my tree which is private. Thank you for this information which is worth looking into.
helina
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Elizabeth definitely listed as widow on 1891 & 1901 census & not with her mother Eleanor & sister Matilda Coole in 1881
I wonder if her surname is badly transcribed on 1881 census :-\
Do you know when and where Elizabeth died?
1901 Elizabeth Trott dau Wid 56 Bristol, occ retired nurse living on own means
with mother Eleanor Coole in Gloucestershire
1891 Elizabeth Trott Head Wid 46 Bristol, occ professional nurse
with sister Matilda Coole in Gloucestershire
1881 ?
1871 Elizabeth Trott Wife 26 Bristol, occ ships carpenter wife
with husband William C Trott in Bedminster
1866 Elizabeth Coole (no occupation) married William C Trott, shipwright
father John Coole, Tallow Chandler
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Another entry for you to look at says widowed
William C Trott, carpenter, non conformist
Birth Date 1843
Admission Date 13 Jan 1904
London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1764-1921
edit to add - and also this one it gives an address
William C Trotto
Admission Age 60
Admission Date 14 Jan 1904
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One death entry to keep in mind for the William C Trott that's in the Islington workhouse
but no middle name :-\ an instant digital image download is available from GRO
TROTT, WILLIAM 63
GRO Reference: 1908 M Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 123
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There is also a William Trott death in June qtr 1904 Whitechapel aged 61
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Can anyone find this man in 1901, electoral register record he is at this address between 1898-1901
William Charles Trott
1898-1901
103 Gosterwood Street
Deptford
Lewisham
SS
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Th, e 1904 workhouse another possibility, I have never ordered a digital imagine on the GRO site so how much information does it give?
helina
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Same as a full cert
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Th, e 1904 workhouse another possibility, I have never ordered a digital imagine on the GRO site so how much information does it give?
helina
Dont order just yet, I have full details of the 1908 death in Islington and will post details shortly.
SS
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Same address as found by Ladyhawk in 1904.
SS
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Thank you softly, I have saved the imagine on my tree, a carpenter a possibility, age a few years out. Will try and find him in 1891,
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In your opening post you said
In 1858 William was an apprentice to a Mr Frederick Green to learn to become an Ship Carpenter. On the 1871 he is now a Ship Carpenter.
I wonder if he & Elizabeth either split up or he deserted her
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Carole, Could be but one will never know, I did wonder at one time if Elizabeth joined William on ship traveling abroad,
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Same address as found by Ladyhawk in 1904.
Have added a snippet of the record below showing the address
William C Trotto
Admission Age 60
Record Type Admission
Admission Date 14 Jan 1904
Admission Place Islington, Islington, City of London
London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1764-1921
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FindMyPast Merchant Service Lists (transcript only)
W C Trott, born - 1840, birth place - Bristol, year - 1865, role - carpenter, vessel name - Sir James, from - ? Jul 1865, vessel no - 497, type - sail
Bristol Mercury, 17 Jun 1865
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London & China Express, 17 Jul 1865
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Well what can I say, interesting information and forming a pattern. I have all the information on my tree on Tribalpages. It certainly looks like the marriage ended after 1871, both saying they were widowed. Wonder where Elizabeth was in 1881? another puzzle.
Thank you for all the help you have done
helina
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I think this is William Trott’s burial on 17 Jan 1908 Islington on deceased online
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u33/
Full register details £2.50
Grave details and 13 other burials £1.50
Burial register scan £2.50
Helina have just found this, something to consider
There is another William J C Trott occ carpenter journeyman born c1844 living in Torrington in 1871 with wife ANN and children and in 1881 he’s with his wife MARIA in Islington
His full name William John Curtice Trott he married 1879 Bethnal Green a
Maria Elizabeth Marchant, he's a widower occ joiner res. 17 Marten Road
I added a snippet of the address for William C Trott, Carpenter at reply 15 (apart from the number the address looks the same as on m/c) :-\
Might he be the William C Trott, Carpenter in the Islington workhouse?
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Ladyhawk, So if you are correct which I think you are William John Curtis Trott is not my William. I have looked on the GRO site and William John was born in 1843, Mother's surname is Curtice.
So back to the drawing board.
Thank you for your help Ladyhawk
helina
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Ladyhawk, So if you are correct which I think you are William John Curtis Trott is not my William. I have looked on the GRO site and William John was born in 1843, Mother's surname is Curtice.
So back to the drawing board.
Forgot to add the address given on the 1881 census for William J & Maria Trott it's
53 Rotherfield St
Will keep looking can't spot William & Maria after 1881 :-\
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There is another William J C Trott occ carpenter journeyman born c1844 living in Torrington in 1871 with wife ANN and children and in 1881 he’s with his wife MARIA in Islington
His full name William John Curtice Trott he married 1879 Bethnal Green a
Maria Elizabeth Marchant, he's a widower occ joiner res. 17 Marten Road
I added a snippet of the address for William C Trott, Carpenter at reply 15 (apart from the number the address looks the same as on m/c) :-\
Might he be the William C Trott, Carpenter in the Islington workhouse?
Rang a bell re. an earlier search for "Trott carpenter" - discounted.
Western Times, 30 Mar 1872