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Title: Death in Panama 1942 - want to find out what happened
Post by: ojbumblebee1993 on Saturday 08 November 25 16:04 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

One of my relatives was called Alfred James Rovery. He was born 4th July 1900 and married Lily Renhsaw in October 1923.

Apparently he died in Panama in 1942. How would I go about finding more information about this? Where should I start? I've checked newspaper records but I can't find any details. It seems strange because I can't find anything to suggest we sent troops to Panama from the UK during WW2.

Any ideas on where to start?

Thanks,

Ojbumblebee1993
Title: Re: Death in Panama 1942 - want to find out what happened
Post by: tonepad on Saturday 08 November 25 17:29 GMT (UK)
How do you know he died in Panama?


Have you excluded this death in Pancras:

Deaths Mar 1942   (>99%)
Rovery    James    41    Pancras    1b   24



Tony
Title: Re: Death in Panama 1942 - want to find out what happened
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 08 November 25 17:38 GMT (UK)
Suspect you are taking your info from the tree on Ancestry?

There is no birth in 1900 for an Alfred James Rovery but there is a James Rovery Sept qtr 1900 Sevenoaks mmn Harding

Alfred J Rovery is in Sevenoaks in 1939

Title: Re: Death in Panama 1942 - want to find out what happened
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 08 November 25 17:41 GMT (UK)
How do you know he died in Panama?


Have you excluded this death in Pancras:

Deaths Mar 1942   (>99%)
Rovery    James    41    Pancras    1b   24
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ROVERY, JAMES       HARDING 
GRO Reference: 1900  S Quarter in SEVENOAKS  Volume 02A  Page 746

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Tony

Title: Re: Death in Panama 1942 - want to find out what happened
Post by: osprey on Saturday 08 November 25 17:46 GMT (UK)
He was in Bromley for the 1939 register.
Title: Re: Death in Panama 1942 - want to find out what happened
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 08 November 25 17:49 GMT (UK)
Lily his wife remarried.

Marriages Dec 1943   
Rovery    Lily    Williams    Bromley    2a   1431    
Williams    Harry E    Rovery    Bromley    2a   1431   

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Title: Re: Death in Panama 1942 - want to find out what happened
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 08 November 25 17:50 GMT (UK)
Parents in 1901 Abram & Rosina

Marriage Sept qtr 1899 Abraham Rovery/Roseline Woolger
Title: Re: Death in Panama 1942 - want to find out what happened
Post by: JenB on Saturday 08 November 25 17:51 GMT (UK)
He was in Bromley for the 1939 register.

His date of birth 4th July 1900 which fits exactly with the details of the baptism of Alfred James Rovery, son of Abraham and Rose, at Ide Hill, Kent.

Added apologies, I see the OP has already mentioned the date of birth.
Title: Re: Death in Panama 1942 - want to find out what happened
Post by: ojbumblebee1993 on Saturday 08 November 25 17:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks all,

Mystery solved - he died in St Pancras in 1942 not in Panama. Many thanks to Tony for spotting that connection - I hadn't thought to try his middle name as the first name.

The Panama lead came from Ancestry where its likely a mis-translation from an online record.

Best,

ojbumblebee1993
Title: Re: Death in Panama 1942 - want to find out what happened
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 08 November 25 17:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks all,

Mystery solved - he died in St Pancras in 1942 not in Panama. Many thanks to Tony for spotting that connection - I hadn't thought to try his middle name as the first name.

The Panama lead came from Ancestry where its likely a mis-translation from an online record.

Best,

Have you downloaded the gro digital death cert. If so please share details of what is recorded.

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ojbumblebee1993
Title: Re: Death in Panama 1942 - want to find out what happened
Post by: JenB on Saturday 08 November 25 18:02 GMT (UK)
Mystery solved - he died in St Pancras in 1942 not in Panama. Many thanks to Tony for spotting that connection - I hadn't thought to try his middle name as the first name.

Have you downloaded the death cert to make certain its the right person?
Title: Re: Death in Panama 1942 - want to find out what happened
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 08 November 25 18:04 GMT (UK)
Still a mystery - his mmn on the 1900 birth reg is Harding.  Marriage 1899 shows her surname as Woolger

1911 has a daughter Mary b 1903 - mmn Woolgar plus a dtr Nellie b 1910 - mmn Harding?

There is an 1883 illegitimate birth for Rosina Harding in 1883 which would make her 16 when she married

Title: Re: Death in Panama 1942 - want to find out what happened
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 08 November 25 18:32 GMT (UK)
The Ancestry tree also says Alfred & Lily had only one child. 

Denis Alfred Rovery was b 1925 - died 1996

Another son Brian James Rovery was b 1934 died 2022