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Title: Annie Round
Post by: crazydaizy on Saturday 08 November 25 08:35 GMT (UK)
My Grandmother Annie Round (1879-1972) was married to my Grandfather Edward Bell (B1880) about 1904 in West Bromwich. 

Annie was born in West Bromwich (1911 Census says she was born in Smethwick)

There seems to be a few Annie Round's in that area.  I've guessed (by looking at Censuses) that her parents "could" be Thomas and Eliza.  In 1901 Annie was (probably?) a Nurse for Birmingham City Hospital.

I want to send off for a copy of her Birth Certificate to confirm who her parents are.  But the form I need to fill in via the Registry Office website is asking who the parents are?

I know Annie's DOB from the 1939 England & Wales Register.

Can I ask for a copy of a Birth Certificate without knowing who her parents were?
Title: Re: Annie Round
Post by: amondg on Saturday 08 November 25 08:45 GMT (UK)
Who did she say her father was on the marriage certificate?

They married December quarter 1902 reg. West Bromwich vol 6b page 1546

Getting the name of the father will narrow down the search.
Title: Re: Annie Round
Post by: crazydaizy on Saturday 08 November 25 08:51 GMT (UK)
Who did she say her father was on the marriage certificate?

They married December quarter 1902 reg. West Bromwich vol 6b page 1546

Getting the name of the father will narrow down the search.

Thanks for your reply.  I have not obtained a Marriage Certificate, so maybe that's my first step?  I have found a date of marriage for Annie and Edward Bell as 1904 in West Bromwich, Staffordshire.  I'll have to look at where you found that 1902 date?
Title: Re: Annie Round
Post by: amondg on Saturday 08 November 25 08:58 GMT (UK)
There is an Annie Round daughter of Enoch and Caroline born Smethwick .

Getting the marriage certificate would be the first step.

Edited corrected  the family name
Title: Re: Annie Round
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 08 November 25 09:18 GMT (UK)
Marriages Dec 1902  
 
Bell         Edward        W. Bromwich    6b   1546
Round    Annie        W. Bromwich    6b   1546
Title: Re: Annie Round
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 08 November 25 09:20 GMT (UK)

I know Annie's DOB from the 1939 England & Wales Register.

Annie's DOB from death certificate is 29 July 1880
Annie's DOB on 1939 Register is 29 July 1879
Title: Re: Annie Round
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 08 November 25 09:23 GMT (UK)
There is an Annie Bell ROUND daughter of Enoch and Caroline born Smethwick .

Getting the marriage certificate would be the first step.

I agree the marriage certificate will give you father's name and occupation and set you in the right direction

The Annie from that family in Smethwick noted above was born in 1880.

1891 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7BQ2-66Z?lang=en


Birth -
ROUND, ANNE             Mother - LONG 
GRO Reference: 1880  S Quarter in KING'S NORTON  Volume 06C  Page 475
Title: Re: Annie Round
Post by: ciderdrinker on Saturday 08 November 25 10:59 GMT (UK)
Hi
She is baptised at St Pauls Smethwick
Annie Round DOB 29th July 1880 bapt 8.2.1885 d of Enoch and Caroline miner George St West.

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5fb978d5f493fd455deca2eb/annie-round-baptism-staffordshire-west-smethwick-1885-02-08?locale=en

Sister Harriet baptised same day born 13 June 1882.

So no need to buy marriage or birth cert.

All the best
Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Annie Round
Post by: crazydaizy on Saturday 08 November 25 16:04 GMT (UK)
Marriages Dec 1902  
 
Bell         Edward        W. Bromwich    6b   1546
Round    Annie        W. Bromwich    6b   1546

Thank you, not sure where I got my date from, but this one must definitely be the one!
Title: Re: Annie Round
Post by: crazydaizy on Saturday 08 November 25 16:06 GMT (UK)

I know Annie's DOB from the 1939 England & Wales Register.

Annie's DOB from death certificate is 29 July 1880
Annie's DOB on 1939 Register is 29 July 1879

Do you think it's an error that the year of birth is different? Or are we to assume this is the same Annie?
Title: Re: Annie Round
Post by: crazydaizy on Saturday 08 November 25 16:08 GMT (UK)
Hi
She is baptised at St Pauls Smethwick
Annie Round DOB 29th July 1880 bapt 8.2.1885 d of Enoch and Caroline miner George St West.

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5fb978d5f493fd455deca2eb/annie-round-baptism-staffordshire-west-smethwick-1885-02-08?locale=en

Sister Harriet baptised same day born 13 June 1882.

So no need to buy marriage or birth cert.

All the best
Ciderdrinker

Thank you, this is very useful.
Title: Re: Annie Round
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 08 November 25 17:26 GMT (UK)

I know Annie's DOB from the 1939 England & Wales Register.

Annie's DOB from death certificate is 29 July 1880
Annie's DOB on 1939 Register is 29 July 1879

Do you think it's an error that the year of birth is different? Or are we to assume this is the same Annie?

The same Annie. An error on 1939 register.
Title: Re: Annie Round
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 08 November 25 23:21 GMT (UK)
Enoch ROUND born abt 1850 [Son of William ROUND and Fanny, nee HANDLEY]

      MARRIAGE 1874 Smethwick
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5f09ecd5f493fd3d39b69554/caroline-long-enoch-round-marriage-staffordshire-smethwick-1874-05-17?locale=en

Caroline LONG born abt 1853 Smethwick. [Daughter of Edward LONG and ?Ellen, nee PATRICK]

Children  of Enoch and Caroline ROUND
•   John Henry 1875
•   Enoch 1875
•   Edward 1878
•   Anne 1880  (Annie)
•   Harriet 1882
•   George 1884
•   Caroline 1886
•   Ellen 1887 (Nellie)
•   Fanny 1890
•   May 1893