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Title: Children of John Theodore Cornelius Martin 1829-1897
Post by: amondg on Saturday 08 November 25 08:07 GMT (UK)
He was born 1829 the son of Robert Martin and Clarissa Harlowe

He married first Sarah Digby 14 February 1853 Old Church St Pancras

There is a possible death 1855 Norwich age 31  for Sarah. No children found.

He married 2nd Rachel Walker 1857 Norwich (1834-1916)

Children
Rachel 1857   died 1872 age 15
*Ann Maria 1859   (On census as Hannah Maria) cannot find after 1881
Alice 1862   died 1864 age 1
Alice Maria 1865 she married William John Chambers 22 May 1893, died 1940 age 75
Clara/Clarissa  1867  died single 1943 age 76
Walter George 1869  married Lily Beatrice Lusher 1898  *died unknown
*Arthur James 1871  (common name)
Edith 1873  died single 1943 age 70
Robert George 1875  married Emily Maria/ Maria Emily Ewing 1898 died 1952

If anyone could help fill in the gaps for * marked I would be grateful,
Title: Re: Children of John Theodore Cornelius Martin 1829-1897
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 08 November 25 08:47 GMT (UK)
With regard to Walter George I assume his relationship broke down with Lily some 9 months prior to the birth of Ernest, these children being the sons of "lodger in 1911 census"


MARTIN, ERNEST  ARTHUR HAYHOE    - 
GRO Reference: 1910  S Quarter in NORWICH  Volume 04B  Page 102

MARTIN, ALBERT  GEORGE HAYHOE    LUSHER 
GRO Reference: 1913  D Quarter in NORWICH  Volume 04B  Page 227


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Title: Re: Children of John Theodore Cornelius Martin 1829-1897
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 08 November 25 09:06 GMT (UK)
Possible adult baptism for Hannah Maria in 1881:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/9854/records/2646633

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FNORFOLK%2FPD_1-8%2F01213&parentid=GBPRS%2FNORFOLK%2FBAP%2F000063052
Title: Re: Children of John Theodore Cornelius Martin 1829-1897
Post by: amondg on Saturday 08 November 25 09:15 GMT (UK)
I saw the late baptism 1881 and wondered if she was ill but could not find a death.

John Martin is such a common name although Rachel for a wife is not.  There were a lot of us Martins
in Norwich mostly dyers/weavers or in the shoe trade.
Title: Re: Children of John Theodore Cornelius Martin 1829-1897
Post by: ciderdrinker on Saturday 08 November 25 11:32 GMT (UK)
Good Morning
you're not going to like this.
The marriage for Walter Martin to Lily Beatrice Lusher at St Peter's Norwich 11.4.1898 says his father is Henry box maker.(parents Henry born 1848 and Sarah born 1853 Heigham)
It looks like Walter George died as a baby June qtr 1872 Norwich age 2

And I think Arthur James probably went the same way .There is a death for a James Martin in Sep 1872 Norwich age 0 which may well be him.

Sorry if Walter was your man .

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Children of John Theodore Cornelius Martin 1829-1897
Post by: amondg on Saturday 08 November 25 14:57 GMT (UK)
No he is not my direct relative.

Thank you for finding that information, I'll correct it right away
Title: Re: Children of John Theodore Cornelius Martin 1829-1897
Post by: amondg on Saturday 08 November 25 15:11 GMT (UK)
My ancestor is a brother of John Theodore Cornelius Martin, Frederick William Martin (1833).

Cleaning up files on distant relatives, research done  pre internet.

So Anna Maria/Hannah Maria 1859- ? is the only on unaccounted for.
 
Title: Re: Children of John Theodore Cornelius Martin 1829-1897
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 08 November 25 20:54 GMT (UK)
My ancestor is a brother of John Theodore Cornelius Martin, Frederick William Martin (1833).

Cleaning up files on distant relatives, research done  pre internet.

So Anna Maria/Hannah Maria 1859- ? is the only on unaccounted for.
 

Is this her?

Hannah Maria Martin
Marriage Age:   24
Marriage Banns Date:   
17 Mar 1876
Marriage Banns Place:   
Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
Father:   John Martin
Spouse:   Charles Newson

Street Address   54 Tonning Street
1881 c Piece   1902 Folio   40 Page number   31
Charles Newson 29
Hannah Newson   29   Wife Eye Suffolk
Flo. Newson 4 Son
M. Newson 2 Daughter

Added she died 1894
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/225909211/hannah-newson


MODIFIED after re-reading the post as not the correct Hannah  ???

He was born 1829 the son of Robert Martin and Clarissa Harlowe

He married first Sarah Digby 14 February 1853 Old Church St Pancras

There is a possible death 1855 Norwich age 31  for Sarah. No children found.

He married 2nd Rachel Walker 1857 Norwich (1834-1916)

Children
Rachel 1857   died 1872 age 15
*Ann Maria 1859   (On census as Hannah Maria) cannot find after 1881
Alice 1862   died 1864 age 1
Alice Maria 1865 she married William John Chambers 22 May 1893, died 1940 age 75
Clara/Clarissa  1867  died single 1943 age 76
Walter George 1869  married Lily Beatrice Lusher 1898  *died unknown
*Arthur James 1871  (common name)
Edith 1873  died single 1943 age 70
Robert George 1875  married Emily Maria/ Maria Emily Ewing 1898 died 1952

If anyone could help fill in the gaps for * marked I would be grateful,

1881 census

Piece   1940
Folio   11
Page number   15
John Martin 52 Head Occ Gas Company Laborer
Rachael Martin 46 Wife
Hannah M. Martin 21 Dau Norwich, Norfolk occ Boot Machinist
Clara Martin 14 Daughter
Edith Martin 8 Daughter
Robert G. Martin 5 Son
Title: Re: Children of John Theodore Cornelius Martin 1829-1897
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 08 November 25 21:03 GMT (UK)
In 1891 Hannah's born Bragesworth, Suffolk. Looks like she dies in 1894
Title: Re: Children of John Theodore Cornelius Martin 1829-1897
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 08 November 25 21:11 GMT (UK)
In 1891 Hannah's born Bragesworth, Suffolk. Looks like she dies in 1894


[/MARTIN, HANNAH  MARIA     mmn BUNGAY  (Braiseworth in Hartismere  reg district.
GRO Reference: 1852  D Quarter in HARTISMERE  Volume 04A  Page 455]

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