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Title: William Hayes Ww1
Post by: andyhayes on Sunday 02 November 25 21:56 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am looking for info relating to William Hayes born in Middlesbrough in 1893, I have found a couple of medal records but unsure if they are for the right person as there isn’t an address.

I have a picture and he may have been a pioneer.

Anybody able to help narrow it down?


Mother’s name was Ada and they lived at 19 Adam Street, Middlesbrough.

Cheers a
Andy
Title: Re: William Hayes Ww1
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 02 November 25 22:09 GMT (UK)
The Medal Record Index (MRI) does not show ages or addresses.

Unfortunately over 60% of WW1 service records were burnt during the WW2 blitz.
Title: Re: William Hayes Ww1
Post by: andyhayes on Sunday 02 November 25 22:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks, any way of finding out?
Title: Re: William Hayes Ww1
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 02 November 25 22:27 GMT (UK)
If you don't know his service number or a definite regiment it could be difficult

Here's the link to Ancestry's surviving WW1 service records

www.rootschat.com/links/01u2u/

I would suggest you post the picture you have to try & get a positive ID on his uniform. It may help to narrow it down

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/armed-forces/
Title: Re: William Hayes Ww1
Post by: J.R.Ellam on Monday 03 November 25 06:54 GMT (UK)
If you have his address you could try the absent voters registers some have the regiment & service number but most don't
Title: Re: William Hayes Ww1
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 03 November 25 07:39 GMT (UK)
He's in the voters lists for 1918 and 1919 at 19 Adam Street so not absent. Per the censuses he was in a reserved occupation (iron and steel production) so he may not have served in the armed forces.
Title: Re: William Hayes Ww1
Post by: andyhayes on Monday 03 November 25 09:08 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone, who is I listed at 19 Adam Street?

William is my Grandads Brother, my Grandad being Albert Henry Hayes
Title: Re: William Hayes Ww1
Post by: andyhayes on Monday 03 November 25 09:27 GMT (UK)
This is an image I have, it isnt great though as it does not show a regimental badge.  I have another image wherehe has a chevron on the lower left arm

Title: Re: William Hayes Ww1
Post by: Andy J2022 on Monday 03 November 25 10:00 GMT (UK)
The chevron on his lower arm is a good conduct badge, meaning that at the point the photo was taken he had served for at least 2 years. The badge on his collar signifies he was in a pioneer battalion. This probably means that he was initially in an infantry battalion which was converted to a pioneer battalion at a later stage, or that he had been wounded or medically downgraded and thus no longer classed as fit to fight, but was fit enough for manual labouring tasks.
(https://britishmilitarybadges.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/GH6776PPUYOY0656-600x567.jpg)
Title: Re: William Hayes Ww1
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 03 November 25 10:43 GMT (UK)
Voters lists for 19 Adam Street:

1918:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/62737/images/62737_263021009496_4232-00280


1919: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/62737/images/62737_263021009496_4236-00295

Just William and Albert Henry listed
Title: Re: William Hayes Ww1
Post by: J.R.Ellam on Tuesday 04 November 25 07:58 GMT (UK)
Hi

They are using the basic voters lists & both William & Albert Henry are down as absent voters. The a before the name & then the letters NM are the indicators but it does not go into detail.

Always worth a try.

John