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Title: Emily Olivia Bunce (1853-1918)
Post by: izonme on Saturday 01 November 25 11:52 GMT (UK)
Hello Everyone.

I am looking for information on the parents of my 3rd great grandmother, Emily Olivia Bunce. I am struggling to find information on her parents, especially her mother. TIA.

Emily Olivia Bunce
b. 1853 - Swindon, Wiltshire, England
d. 1918 - Lambeth, London, England
m. 1874 to Charles Henry Dyer

Title: Re: Emily Olivia Bunce (1853-1918)
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 01 November 25 11:57 GMT (UK)
Have you looked for her on the 1861 or 1871 censuses?  I can see an 1861 entry which matches her profile

Does she name a father on her marriage cert?
Title: Re: Emily Olivia Bunce (1853-1918)
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 01 November 25 12:14 GMT (UK)
She married as Emily Bunce & signed the register as Emily.  Father shown as William (deceased) no occupation shown

There is an illegitimate birth for an Emily Bunce in Wilts but it was in 1851. 

Title: Re: Emily Olivia Bunce (1853-1918)
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 01 November 25 12:23 GMT (UK)
There is a baptism for Emily Bunce 11.1.1852 South Marston.  Mother Matilda

On the 1881 census Emily O Dyer gives her birthplace as Marston

Charles Dyer was only b 1854 so could Emily have knocked a year or 2 off her birthyear??
Title: Re: Emily Olivia Bunce (1853-1918)
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 01 November 25 12:29 GMT (UK)
1861 has a Matilda Bunce b 1833 Marston working as a servant

May be coincidence but given the 1874 marriage of Emily was in Kensington - both Emily Bunce & Matilda Bunce are living & working in Kensington in 1871

A Matilda Bunce also married in Kensington in 1878
Title: Re: Emily Olivia Bunce (1853-1918)
Post by: ciderdrinker on Saturday 01 November 25 12:32 GMT (UK)
Hi
Looks like William Bunce is the grandfather
1861 Highworth Cottage
William Bunce 77 ag lab Marston Wilts
Rcahel 57 Burton Berks
Emily granddaughter 9 South Marston

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Emily Olivia Bunce (1853-1918)
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 01 November 25 12:45 GMT (UK)
1861
 
James Bunce 64 carpenter b Purton
Susanna 64 b Shaw
Sarah 32 dtr b Purton
Emily 7 g/dtr b Swindon
Piece 1275/59/3

1841 shows Matilda Bunce as the daughter of William & Rachel so Emily is the 1851 illegitimate birth.

You can download a digital copy of her birth cert for £3

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
Title: Re: Emily Olivia Bunce (1853-1918)
Post by: izonme on Saturday 01 November 25 13:11 GMT (UK)
If she is an illegitimate birth is there no way of finding her fathers name unless i thoroughly look through my DNA matches?  ???
Title: Re: Emily Olivia Bunce (1853-1918)
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 01 November 25 14:17 GMT (UK)
No - It won’t be on her birth cert, it’s not on the christening entry & the “father” on the marriage cert is probably her grandfather.  Many illegitimate children made up a fathers name when they married to appear “respectable”

Title: Re: Emily Olivia Bunce (1853-1918)
Post by: izonme on Saturday 01 November 25 16:02 GMT (UK)
I just bought the birth cert. Emily's birthday is 8 Dec 1851.

She was a servant when the 1851 census was taken, which was taken in the March. 9 months from Mar-Dec. She would have had to conceive around the time that the census was taken. I suppose it could be a possibility that the father could be the head of household or the other servant in the household?

Title: Re: Emily Olivia Bunce (1853-1918)
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 01 November 25 16:57 GMT (UK)
George Cloud was widowed March qtr 1850 - wife was Maria.  George & Maria nee Goddard were married 1839