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Title: Occupation 1901 census please
Post by: nicdigby on Wednesday 29 October 25 10:39 GMT (UK)
Only the occupation with the arrow (others there for reference).

First word is Machinist - what do you make of the next two words please?

Location: Dudley.

Original: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7814/images/WARRG13_2884_2885-0357?pId=16682755

NB: ten years later he was an 'ammunition machinist'
Title: Re: Occupation 1901 census please
Post by: Tickettyboo on Wednesday 29 October 25 10:43 GMT (UK)
 Ammunition ?

Boo
Title: Re: Occupation 1901 census please
Post by: nicdigby on Wednesday 29 October 25 10:51 GMT (UK)
Ammunition ?

Boo

Could be, certainly was his profession ten years later. Just strange how the 'tion' is spaced from the first part
Title: Re: Occupation 1901 census please
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 29 October 25 10:55 GMT (UK)
FindMyPast have his occupation as Machinist ammunition, as is his son, James.  AND just to confuse things they have the surname as ROUND.  :-\
Title: Re: Occupation 1901 census please
Post by: nicdigby on Wednesday 29 October 25 11:01 GMT (UK)
FindMyPast have his occupation as Machinist ammunition, as is his son, James.  AND just to confuse things they have the surname as ROUND.  :-\

The correct surname is Round, Ancestry have got it wrong on two different census records
Title: Re: Occupation 1901 census please
Post by: Tickettyboo on Wednesday 29 October 25 11:12 GMT (UK)
I am now sure it says Machinist Ammunition

and the location is Aston Manor Civil Parish, not Dudley which was recorded as the man's birthplace.

Interestingly he lived around half a mile from Witton, where there was an ammunition works
https://war-work.com/lion-works-witton/

Boo
Title: Re: Occupation 1901 census please
Post by: nicdigby on Wednesday 29 October 25 11:14 GMT (UK)
That all fits in with what I have. Thanks very much
Title: Re: Occupation 1901 census please
Post by: AlanBoyd on Wednesday 29 October 25 11:35 GMT (UK)
Boo has beaten me to it, but…

In the census entry his address is 17 Ettington Road. Here is the address on the 1902/1905 6 inch OS map:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/101597606#zoom=5.8&lat=1950&lon=2772&layers=BT

If you zoom out a little and look to the north, just past the railway line you will see the Lion Ammunition Works, which seems like a good candidate for his place of work.
Title: Re: Occupation 1901 census please
Post by: nicdigby on Wednesday 29 October 25 11:38 GMT (UK)
Thanks for this. It’s interesting because I originally thought the last word in question was “Lion”

Boo has beaten me to it, but…

In the census entry his address is 17 Ettington Road. Here is the address on the 1902/1905 6 inch OS map:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/101597606#zoom=5.8&lat=1950&lon=2772&layers=BT

If you zoom out a little and look to the north, just past the railway line you will see the Lion Ammunition Works, which seems like a good candidate for his place of work.
Title: Re: Occupation 1901 census please
Post by: Tickettyboo on Wednesday 29 October 25 11:45 GMT (UK)
Never a race Alan, always better to have various opinions whether they agree or disagree.

and if I'd looked at the 1921 census earlier (where employers names were required) I'd have had extra confirmation as he was still working
Was  interesting to read the page I found and see the pictures though. I was amazed at the details of their weekly output during WW1.

Boo
Title: Re: Occupation 1901 census please
Post by: MollyC on Wednesday 29 October 25 12:59 GMT (UK)
Interesting to read about the central works in this large business.  Birmingham Archives has a collection of papers (with a couple of items mis-indexed as Kynock).  I came across Kynoch a few years ago because a relative worked during WW1 as a chemist in their explosives manufacturing plant at Arklow.  They had a similar plant in Essex named Kynochtown (later renamed Coryton when it became an oil terminal and refinery).  They both closed at the end of the war.  Manufacture of gunpowder for small ammunition and mining/quarrying etc. continued at Worsbrough Dale, Barnsley until at least 1927 as Nobel’s Explosives Co. Ltd.  (Kelly's W. Riding Directory)

See: https://historyireland.com/arklows-explosive-history-kynoch-1895-1918