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Title: John Balls of Aldeburgh (1758)
Post by: windy_miller on Sunday 26 October 25 21:42 GMT (UK)
I have a miller located at Aldeburgh going by the name of John Balls.  He seemed to be charged with baking when not qualified?

I'd be interested in any info regarding his marriage, and any other villages in the neighbourhood he was in around this time.

Thanks in advance,

Windy
Title: Re: John Balls of Aldeburgh (1758)
Post by: maddys52 on Sunday 26 October 25 21:53 GMT (UK)


What event occurs in 1758 - his birth, death, or the incident?

Not really near Aldeburgh, but there is a John BALLS, miller of Wenhaston married Hannah WINCOP of Halesworth on 12 Jan 1763 at St Mary Halesworth.
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/62136524f493fdc0a98ba3d1
Title: Re: John Balls of Aldeburgh (1758)
Post by: maddys52 on Sunday 26 October 25 22:02 GMT (UK)
Again, not quite near Aldeburgh, but I can also see references to a John BALLS , miller of Middleton near Fordley, bankrupt in 1760.
Title: Re: John Balls of Aldeburgh (1758)
Post by: windy_miller on Sunday 26 October 25 22:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Maddy52,

He was charge with baking when he had not done an appropriate apprenticeship.

Quite possible that John is a brother (the Balls family were a big milling family in Suffolk at the time).

Windy
Title: Re: John Balls of Aldeburgh (1758)
Post by: maddys52 on Sunday 26 October 25 22:18 GMT (UK)
Ok, thanks.

There is a will for John BALLS, miller of Middleton at Norfolk Record Office, died 1781.
https://nrocatalogue.norfolk.gov.uk/index.php/balls-john-miller-of-middleton-suffolk
Title: Re: John Balls of Aldeburgh (1758)
Post by: windy_miller on Monday 27 October 25 10:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks Maddys52,

Looks like a trip to Norwich is on the cards!  BTW what is the difference between Middleton and Middleton cum Fordley?  I assume they are the same place with Fordley (hamlet?) tacked on?

It looks like the Balls family held a mill at Middleton (cum Fordley) from 1757 till 1837.

Windy
Title: Re: John Balls of Aldeburgh (1758)
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 27 October 25 23:42 GMT (UK)
Not sure re Middleton and Middleton cum Fordley - I saw them both in mentions of the bankruptcy, so presume Middleton is just a shorter version?
Title: Re: John Balls of Aldeburgh (1758)
Post by: windy_miller on Tuesday 28 October 25 00:18 GMT (UK)
Same.  I have one windmill in Middleton and one in Middleton cum Fordley.  Millers seem to overlap so I suspect its the same edifice.  Just easier to double enter than untangle later if I find they were two seperate buildings
Title: Re: John Balls of Aldeburgh (1758)
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 28 October 25 01:24 GMT (UK)
I did see this (published 1931)

"MIDDLETON-CUM-FORDLEY

Middleton is a village of 500 inhabitants, situated 5 miles from Saxmundham, and 3 miles from Darsham Station, L.N.E.R. Fordley is a hamlet, at one time a separate parish, and of greater population than Middleton. The two parishes were united by Oliver Cromwell. ..."

Publication:    Suffolk County Handbook and Official Directory
Title: Re: John Balls of Aldeburgh (1758)
Post by: windy_miller on Tuesday 28 October 25 09:09 GMT (UK)
Solved!  Good sleuthing.
Title: Re: John Balls of Aldeburgh (1758)
Post by: gobbitt on Tuesday 28 October 25 11:53 GMT (UK)

There is a will for John BALLS, miller of Middleton at Norfolk Record Office, died 1781.
https://nrocatalogue.norfolk.gov.uk/index.php/balls-john-miller-of-middleton-suffolk

FamilySearch has images of the NCC probate registers (https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/278818?availability=Family%20History%20Library).

The will of John Balls of Middleton with Fordley can be downloaded free of charge from https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN6-CTMJ?cat=278818&i=368&lang=en

David
Title: Re: John Balls of Aldeburgh (1758)
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 29 October 25 03:50 GMT (UK)
I forget that familysearch has so many images now, that's great gobbitt. Informative will.  :)
Title: Re: John Balls of Aldeburgh (1758)
Post by: windy_miller on Wednesday 29 October 25 19:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Gobbitt,

I'll look into this will as I believe John Balls had no less than 4 windmills in the 1760.  It'll be interesting to see if circumstances changed by 1781.

Windy