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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: Iain... on Saturday 25 October 25 14:28 BST (UK)
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Good afternoon All...
I have the coordinates of a certain Robert Gann, including his 'Find a Grave' details. (annexed)
Try as I may, I just can't find it on their website, and when I enter the details, it comes up zero info.
I know that Robert shared a comunal grave. Can anyone tell me where it is exactly ? I will then use 'Google Walk' for an image ?
Thanks in advance..., Iain.
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It is listed on Deceased online and states there is one other burial -
last name GANN
first names ROBERT
Burial date 10 September 1851
Location Kensington and Chelsea
Full register details £2.50
Grave details and 1 other burial £1.50
Burial register scan £2.50
Map of grave location £2.50
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Map :-\
https://www.royalparks.org.uk/visit/parks/brompton-cemetery/map
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Thanks Rosie..., very kind of you.
However, I seem to remember a map of the cemetry with references to the plots..., ie..., AK,11.3x59.0 - 219838546.
Darned if I can find it. Now in the belief that the page in question has since been eliminated.
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Going by the reference number he is sharing with a Charles Judd
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/222123491/charles-judd
I have not looked any further for a map with plot numbers, I will have a look
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It is here
https://www.royalparks.org.uk/sites/default/files/2023-07/Brompton-Cemetery_Compartments-Map-2022.pdf
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Rosie..., a hundred thanks. :)
Have a nice week end..., Iain.
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PS - FYI: Robert Gann was one of Wellingtons' servants. He also participated with the defence of Hougoumont at Waterloo.
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PS - FYI: Robert Gann was one of Wellingtons' servants. He also participated with the defence of Hougoumont at Waterloo.
Thank you for that, it is always good to get these extra bits of information on the peopler we are researching :)
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Hi Iain
Section AK and all those on the Brompton map (linked by rosie99) below the central avenue in the western side are identified as common or public graves and generally do not have headstones. There are exceptions to this generalisation but the headstones tend to be for more recent burials as in post ww2. This plot is also an exception as it is a private grave with 2 (unrelated) burials, Charles Judd and Robert Gann. The record for who owned or paid for the plot is not online but could most probably be found at the National Archives.
There are 2100 plots in AK, each plot averaging 5 or 6 burials, the first at 12ft. There are still plot numbers missing from memorials on FindAGrave, this is a diminishing number though, but it is the only site that records the plot numbers. While FindMyPast and Ancestry have transcriptions and images of the burial registers, their transcriptions do not have the plot numbers.
The memorials on the Royal Parks website can be mis-transcibed, the handwriting being hard to decipher, and there are many pages missing that can be found on FindMyPast & Ancestry. Not 1 site is currently the most complete but FAG has memorials for deaths after 1997, which is when the older registers were deposited at the National Archives.
Hope this helps.
Dawn
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Amazing Dawn…, thank you.
I was aware of Charles Jude from a previous post…, however, ‘Google-walk’ doesn’t allow any close-ups of the area.
Just between ‘you and I,’ (lol) I am adding the final touches to a screenplay taken from my book, where Old-Comrades attend the funeral of a former Scots Guards Sergeant. (Sgt Ralph Fraser) The Friends of Brompton Cemetery have since de-turfed his 160-year-old stone, and now has him in their data-banks. (Robert will probably join him) Fraser was quite a Waterloo Hero, as was Robert in relation to the defense of Hougoumont. (being a probable reason why he was accepted as a servant at Aspley House)
:)
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It's good to see the effort that has been made to tidy up the plot.
I was at Brompton last week, walking around with a fellow FindAGrave volunteer over from the USA. She was a little unhappy that so much is overgrown because the Royal Parks have determined it being good for the local wildlife. Don't get me wrong, it is full of birds and insects, but the plots just look messy and unkempt.
On the subject of old soldiers, there are lots of Chelsea Pensioners at Brompton before the move to Brookwood was made. The majority are in common plots. I've been working on the burial registers for a couple of years now, adding the missing plot numbers. I bet there were some stories they could have told.
Good luck with your project.
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Wow..., thanks Dawn.