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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: sorrellk on Friday 24 October 25 20:35 BST (UK)
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Can some eagle-eyed people read an occupation and age for me off this census page? It is the 10th name down on the page. The name is Edward Jones, aged 25 living with a Jane Jones, aged 24 and a baby also named Edward.
I can't read the elder Edward's occupation nor the age of baby Edward? Any ideas would be much appreciated.
Karen
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occupation could be S mason J - stone mason journeyman
age 4 days?
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I agree with Osprey
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I'm seeing Ewards Occupation as " ? Merchant"
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Wow, thanks everyone for the lightning fast reply!!
I was thinking S Merchant too. Any idea what the S might stand for? If it's any help (and assuming this is the Edward Jones I think it is), he was described as a shopkeeper on his marriage certificate in 1839.
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Is this the marriage 1839 Holy Trinity Church Liverpool ?
Edward Jones widower ( shopkeeper ) father Morris Jones
Jane Smith widow father John Sanderson
If it is they are on the 1841 census Greenlane Mount Pleasant Liverpool
Edward Jones 40 shopkeeper
Jane Jones 46
Debra Sanderson 40
Rosie
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I vote for S Mason. I don't think it is a T at the end of the word (compare 'optician' on the line above?) As J for journeyman it is just like the ones added to several other entries, plasterer J, skinner J etc. Presumably written later as it is a different shape to the J of Jonas, Jane and John, so there is always the possibility it shouldn't be on Edward's entry at all?
As Rosie has found an alternate Edward and Jane, which couple do you think is more likely to be the one you are looking for?
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Will need to wait on Sorrellk replying before we go any further
Rosie
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Probable marriage for the stone mason:
Edward Pearson Jones, stone mason, and Jane Morris, 30 January 1839, St Peter's Liverpool.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2197/images/engl56170_283-pet-3-24_m_00022
EPJ was baptised in 1815 so the age is right for the 1841 census entry.
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Many thanks for showing me an alternate couple, Rosie. They do appear to be a better fit for the 1839 marriage at Holy Trinity. Having said that, the Green Lane couple cannot be the one I was looking for as the age for Jane doesn't work with the birth date I have for the lady I am after. I am actually trying to trace Jane SANDERSON b. 1819.
I had thought that the 1839 marriage was a good lead because Jane's father was given as John SANDERSON, Joiner on the marriage record. This does match with the Jane I have who was born to parents John SANDERSON and Mary LLOYD baptized 19 Apr 1819 at St. Peter.
Guess I still have some thinking to do. Thanks to all of you - this is a wonderful site!
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Are you sure she married ?
I found this burial record for a Jane Sanderson 16 July 1832 age unknown ?
Address was Collingwood Street is that where the family lived ?
Burial was at St Mary's Cemetery Liverpool
Might not be her maybe some other relation but maybe worth checking
Rosie
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Just to show that there was more than one joiner in Liverpool named John Sanderson, this is from the 1829 Gore's Directory:
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Unfortunately, you're right. The one at 49 Fontenoy St is the father of the elusive Jane.
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John Sanderson of 49 Fontenoy Street seems to have been the father of John Sanderson of 10 Collingwood Street. John senior's wife was Elizabeth
See administration bond for Mary Casson (I think Elizabeth's sister), 1833, here (+ several more images)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D5Y3-HVT
Possible burial of John Sanderson senior, 2 Dec 1839.
Abode Fontenoy St. Age 76 years. Gives date of death.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9Q6-V22W
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Unfortunately, you're right. The one at 49 Fontenoy St is the father of the elusive Jane.
Glad you got the right one in the end ;)
Rosie
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Baptism of Jane Saunderson, 19 April 1819, St Peter Liverpool
Parents John + Mary
Abode Circus St
Father a Joiner
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89GC-XH61
Later one
Elizabeth Ann Sanderson, bap 27 Sep 1830, St Peter
Abode in Collingwood St
Father a Joiner
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9Y4-JSGM-J
The one at 49 Fontenoy St is the father of the elusive Jane.
John the joiner in Fontenoy Street is Jane's grandfather.
I think the Jane Smith nee Sanderson who married Edward Jones in 1839 might be the daughter of John (another joiner) and Esther Sanderson.
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Yes, quite right. Getting all my Johns mixed up ::) It's been a while since I looked at this line. The John in Fontenoy St is Jane's grandfather.
I think you're right about Mary CASSON as well, as her sister Elizabeth did marry John SANDERSON in 1787. Their son John married Mary LLOYD in 1814.
I already had the births of 8 children to that couple but I did not have have the birth of Elizabeth Ann in 1830, so thanks for that one!