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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: bitzar on Friday 24 October 25 03:36 BST (UK)
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Hello all,
I'm tidying up a few families including my Shaw family of Worksop, Notts. I had my William Shaw born 20 June 1807 at Worksop, s/of William Shaw and Mary Unwin and death 07 Dec 1830 at Worksop. Now looking at his death, I have nil idea how I know this and am revisiting it!
William's sister Elizabeth born c1794 at Worksop most likely married Thomas THOMPSON in Worksop in 1820 (Witnesses, M Shaw and Eliza Unwin). On the 1851 she is at Kingston upon Hull without her husband but with her daughter Eliza and niece Mary aged 16 born at Whitwell, Derbyshire. On the 1841 Elizabeth is at the Seminary in Worksop with both her daughters, Eliza and Marianne. At the Seminary are also Mary and Anne SHAW, not born in county. Why would they be at the Seminary?
Back at Whitwell, there are baptisms for Mary, Anne, and William SHAW in 1834 on the same day with actual birthdates of the children listed. James is baptised in Clowne in 1837. On the register their father William is listed as a Surgeon. It's possible James is on the 1841 with another family aged 4.
Something must of happened to William and Mary but I can't see anything likely. I also can't find a likely marriage for them.
I'm also not used to having Surgeon's in my family of Ironmongers...
Any help appreciated.
bitzar.
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The Seminary in Worksop was a school for young ladies.
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License issued 2 January 1793 at Doncaster for the marriage of William Shaw age 30 of Worksop, Nottinghamshire
To Mary Unwin age 21 of Doncaster.
Intended place of marriage Doncaster Parish Church.
Ref: FindMyPast
This William left a will ( he died 1827) Probate 1828 York Prerogative Courts. Vol. 177f
ref 1827011830100270.tif/20
https://www.york.ac.uk/borthwick/remote-services/copying/order-form
Hopefully he names his married daughter.
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Sheffield Independent dated 11 February 1837
On Saturday last at Clown, near Worksop, in the 29th year of his age, Mr. William Shaw, surgeon, of influenza followed by typhus fever.
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9 January 1836 Nottingham and Newark Mercury
Notice is hereby given.
That the partnership between Mary Shaw of Worksop in the County of Nottingham and Reuben Shaw of the same place carried on by them at Worksop aforesaid, as Whitesmiths and Ironmongers, under the firm Mary Shaw and Son was dissolved as upon the twenty forth day of December instant.
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The following article states Mary Shaw is retiring ... late husband William Shaw and respectfully commends her son Reuben Shaw .......
Reuben Shaw then advertises as Whitesmith, Furnishing Ironmonger, Bellhanger, Tinman and Brazier. , Worksop.
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Children of William and Mary Shaw St Mary Priory, Worksop
Elizabeth bap. 6 August 1794
John bap 23 November 1795
Mary bap 31 December 1796
Reuben bap 15 October 1799 - buried 12 October 1872 Worksop.
Samuel bap 1 December 1801(born 30 September 1801) buried 9 June 1820
age 18.
Ann bap 13 February 1805 (born 13 December 1804) Possible burial 9 December 1836 age 31
William bap 3 August 1807 (born 20 June 1807)
James bap 12 January 1811 (born 13 October 1808) possible burial 13 July 1836 age 27
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Might be worth getting the will of James Shaw who died 1836 probate August 1837, I think he is William's brother
York Prerogative Court
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Anne Shaw his sister's will probated August 1837 (she also died 1836)
These help establish relationships and prove paternity.
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Reuben Shaw is under Index to Death duty 1873 - George Unwin of Whitwell Nottingham
John Shaw is also under Index to death duty 1878 - Edward Shaw of Nottingham
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1841 Census Clowne
James Shaw age 4 born in County in the household of James Malthouse? age 55 and his wife Mary/May age 50 neither born in county.
1851Possible James Shaw age 16 visitor with Grace Clarkson age 56
1861 James Shaw age 24 lodger with Ann Woodward age 60 in Woodsetts
James Shaw 24 Joiner of Dover Kent married Agnes Hudson 22 Dress Maker of Woodsetts on 17 October 1861 at Woodsetts York
His father William Shaw - Surgeon
Her father John Hudson - Blacksmith
Witness John Hudson, E Hudson and Henry Turner
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Possible marriage for Mary Shaw (1796) to Richard Case with consent of his father Richard Case by
license 22 April 1823 at Worksop
Witness W. Newton and Richard Case
Reuben Shaw (1799) married Elizabeth Case 25 May 1826 at Worksop. by License
witness James Oxley? and Sarah Case
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Hi all,
Thanks for all your info. The death I had originally for Wm I must of typed 1830 instead of 1837 because the burial date was correct. I g**gled how to become a Surgeon in the 1830's and AI interestingly enough gave a few examples of apprenticeships, medical school, mentorship, etc. I'd be interested to know more about this.
I have had another thread about the children of William SHAW and Mary UNWIN. They had another son George baptised in 1817 (but born c1798), probably as an adult even though the register doesn't say so. He is my x3 gr grandfather and was also in the 'smith' trade.
I found a doc that read Mary Shaw, widow of Clowne and children were removed to Mansfield Notts in 1844. We know that Elizabeth Thompson was with the daughters Mary and Anne at The Seminary School in Worksop in 1841, and James was with the Malthouses.
I'll be following up all the other suggestions and the wills.
Many thanks.
bitzar.
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Hello all,
If anyone has access could you please check the 1829 marriage at Mansfield of Mary MASON to Wm Shaw. It could be a possibility.
Many thanks.
bitzar.
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The marriage is on FreeReg
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684e89b9865574398bb4270e
It was by licence - I'm not sure where you may be able to locate the actual licence?
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The wills are going to be important.Do keep us updated.
I'm not sure you have the correct George bap 1817 but you say was born 1798. I know it says William Shaw - Ironmonger as his father.
1841 Census Worksop
Mary Shaw 70 Independent
George Shaw 23 (born circa 1817)
William Shaw 8 (is this William and Mary possibly nee Mason's son William born 1832?)
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The wills are going to be important.Do keep us updated.
I'm not sure you have the correct George bap 1817 but you say was born 1798. I know it says William Shaw - Ironmonger as his father.
1841 Census Worksop
Mary Shaw 70 Independent
George Shaw 23 (born circa 1817)
William Shaw 8 (is this William and Mary possibly nee Mason's son William born 1832?)
This George Shaw on the 1841 is an interesting one. There is definitely something not quite right with one George Shaw. The George on the census you attached can’t be traced after 1841 from memory.
Bitzar.
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The marriage is on FreeReg
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684e89b9865574398bb4270e
It was by licence - I'm not sure where you may be able to locate the actual licence?
Thanks Maddy. This is the only one I could see too.
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George Shaw of 1841 is on the 1851 census.
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Possible George Shaw - Farmer married Ann Newton 5 January 1844 by license Parish Church Worksop
His father William - Whitesmith
Her father Thomas - Labourer
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Stamford Mercury 29 February 1856
At Worksop on the 23rd instant Mr. George Shaw, son of the late Mr. Shaw Ironmonger age 38.
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He was buried 26th February at St. Mary and St. Cuthbert, Worksop
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George Shaw of 1841 is on the 1851 census.
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Possible George Shaw - Farmer married Ann Newton 5 January 1844 by license Parish Church Worksop
His father William - Whitesmith
Her father Thomas - Labourer
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Stamford Mercury 29 February 1856
At Worksop on the 23rd instant Mr. George Shaw, son of the late Mr. Shaw Ironmonger age 38.
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He was buried 26th February at St. Mary and St. Cuthbert, Worksop
Wow. Thank you for this. The two George’s have always been an issue. My George, the other one, said he was born out of county on the 1841. He must fit into the family somehow being a Whitesmith.
Bitzar.