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Title: FRANKLIN and SELF, Gloucestershire Regt, 1921
Post by: trevalyn on Wednesday 22 October 25 21:50 BST (UK)

Help required !
I am trying to find the burial places of two young soldiers of the Gloucestershire Regiment who died in Ireland in 1921.
ALBERT EDWARD FRANKLIN, 5174836,  died on 14 May 1921 at the Military Hospital, Fermoy, Co Cork. Aged just 17 and the son of Charles H Franklin, he died from meningitis. Place of birth/home address not known.
JACK HOWARD SELF ,  5173599, died in an accidental shooting at Fermoy Barracks on 24 March 1921.  Aged 19, he is believed to have been born around Bristol.
My primary objective is to establish where these two young lads are buried. The lack of basic information is clearly a major obstacle. Were they buried in Ireland or were they brought back to the mainland for burial? Indeed, can anyone identify their places of birth.?
The two deaths are unrelated but the fact that they were both in the Gloucesters would suggest that they came from the area.
Any snippet of information, particularly death/obituary notices, would be gratefully received.

Title: Re: FRANKLIN and SELF, Gloucestershire Regt, 1921
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 22 October 25 22:06 BST (UK)

JH Self served in the Gloucestershire regiment but I can't see a birth reg.

In 1911 he is shown as a 9yr old boarder living with a 73yr old widow in Bristol & shown as b Bristol

Title: Re: FRANKLIN and SELF, Gloucestershire Regt, 1921
Post by: gc1 on Thursday 23 October 25 09:58 BST (UK)

Could this be Jack  ??? ???
I think this is just his Memorial not where he's buried  :(

Name   Jack Howard Self
Death Date   24 Mar 1921
Event Type   Burial
Event Place   Brookwood, Woking Borough, Surrey, England
Cemetery   Brookwood 1914-1918 Memorial

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3TV-K7BF?lang=en

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/282756773/jack-howard-self

Title: Re: FRANKLIN and SELF, Gloucestershire Regt, 1921
Post by: softly softly on Thursday 23 October 25 13:53 BST (UK)

ALBERT EDWARD FRANKLIN, 5174836,  died on 14 May 1921 at the Military Hospital, Fermoy, Co Cork. Aged just 17 and the son of Charles H Franklin, he died from meningitis. Place of birth/home address not known.

Born 2nd June 1903 as per baptism record. Image on FindMyPast

FRANKLIN, ALBERT  EDWARD     mmn HARDING 
GRO Reference: 1903  S Quarter in SAINT THOMAS  Volume 05B  Page 54

Appears in 1911 census with parents Charles & Elizabeth and siblings.

Parents

Marriages Mar 1899   
Franklin    Charles        St. Thomas    5b   73    
Harding    Jane        St. Thomas    5b   73

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