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Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: tornado on Sunday 19 October 25 13:25 BST (UK)
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Hi all . My 11th G Grandparents where Vincent de Bonafous and Marguerite de Buscansolles born about 1548(so a long way back) I tried to track them down on the Geneanet french website , but it was all in French! so I could not read it . There was a lot there . I was wondering if anyone could track them down and see if there are any interesting revelations ? I welcome any support here and thank you .
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Whilst you are waiting a response why not have a go at one of these online translators?
For modern online tools, try AI-powered translators like TransWord.AI or OpenL, though accuracy for older texts may vary. For specialized historical work, consult linguistic and archival resources like the Anglo-Norman Dictionary or Transkribus for deciphering handwritten manuscripts. Other helpful resources include the University of Texas's Old French Online project and dictionaries from university sources like MEMSLib.
https://openl.io/translate/old-french
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The majority of the trees on Généanet have taken their information from that of Denis Armangaud (though one or two show more detailed descendance), so I would suggest you concentrate on translating that one.
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Hi,
Choose the 2 first trees ( monsarraty and armengaud) and then choose the english language ( bottom and left of the page ).
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from the ARMENGAUD Tree.
As this isn't written in 'old French', Google Translate does a fair job.
Just copy and paste smallish bits
Vincent Bonafous:
Notary of Castelnau de Brassac, lieutenant of the seneschal of Castres
(Senechal: an agent or steward in charge of a lord's estate in feudal times.)
Father Vincent born about 1510, died about 1569 (will of unknown date).
Vincent BONAFOUS, the son, made his will in 1586 before Maître Bertrand DE LAMOTTE, notary of Castelnau.
This will is actually found in the departmental archives of Tarn under the code 3 E1 / 8687, register for the period from April 25, 1585 to November 30, 1588, notary Bertrand de la Motte.
At that time we know as a researcher Pastor Philippe CORBIERE who, as heir of the ALQUIER de la RAMBERGUE and direct descendant of the BONAFOUS, possessed fairly extensive family archives.
Mr. ROUSTAN-VERRIERES consulted this register and transcribed the following content for me:
VINCENT BONAFOUS, notary of Castelnau de Brassac, predecessor of Bertrand de la Motte, husband of Marguerite BOUSCANSOLLE, names his children:
Jeanne DE BONAFOUS, wife of Jacques MAUZY, merchant of La Crozette (Lacrouzette),
Judith DE BONAFOUS, wife of Vincent ALBERT, practitioner and clerk of Castelnau,
Marthe and Suzanne, his unmarried daughters,
Etienne and David, his universal heirs in equal shares,
and Jean, his youngest son.
On the other hand, another passage in Gaches's Memoirs cites *Vincent and Jacques BONAFOUS of Castelnau de Brassac.
This Jacques is believed to be Jacques BONAFOUS, a bourgeois of Saint-Amans, husband of Esther DE SAPTE, who appears in the registers of the Saint-Amans church from 1599 onward. This Jacques appears to be the eldest son of Bernard BONAFOUS, a tax collector in Castres, cited in Batailler's Memoirs (1584/1586).
As for Jean, Vincent's youngest son mentioned in the 1586 will, he is perhaps the notary of Castelnau of whom the Archives of Tarn only preserve a single register dating from 1617 and 1618 (code AD 3 E 38 / 1).
If this will sheds some light on the family of Vincent BOANFOUS, there is still a lot of uncertainty about the location of two other notaries Jean BONAFOUS, one in Castres and Revel (father of Jean doctor and lawyer, other Jean clerk in Châtillon sur Loing and Samuel bourgeois of Castres), the other in Castres and Saint-Amans (son of Bernard auditor in Castres and brother of Jacques bourgeois of Saint-Amans), existing at the same period, namely around 1590 / 1610.
Sources:
Individual: Memoirs of Jacques Gaches on the Wars of Religion, published by Charles PRADEL, Paris 1879, available on galiica.bnf.fr
Even though I set my language to English joger, it doesn't translate it from the French.
Nor does the facility under 'View', 'Translate', so back to Google Translate!).
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This may be of some interest to you.
It's Denis ARMENGAUD on a Geneanet forum talking about his research into the family.
https://www.geneanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=545655
(If it comes up in French, there should be a facility on your computer 'translate to english'.
On a Mac, it's under 'View' - 'Translation'.
Unfortunately that doesn't work for the other Geneanet pages on family trees, but it does for this).
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Many thanks Goldie for all your valuable information on the Bonnafous family of France . It seems they where an educated lot! From the start there was wealth . Pity the line is so far from my ancestors . I will read up on Geneanet articles . Best wishes to you .