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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: jamesm113 on Sunday 19 October 25 08:29 BST (UK)
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William Dixon / Mary O'Hara
Married 14 Jan 1868 in Ardnaree, Kilmoremoy, County Mayo (or perhaps Sligo?)
Thanks!
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The marriage took place in Ardnaree church, part of Kilmoremoy catholic parish, see the marriage from the church register at the end of this page (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634632?locale=en#page/156/mode/1up)
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Thank you!
I assume if there's no parent information on there, there would not be parent information on RootsIreland.ie's index, right?
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I wouldn't have expected any more details for an early marriage especially in a rural area like that. RootsIreland would be a transcript of the same register.
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Ok, thank you!
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Are you registered (free) with Irishgenealogy?
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1869/11432/8199154.pdf
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Yes I am - thank you for sending that over. I was hoping to get an age and mother's name. I've seen that recorded in other church marriage records.
Also, I didn't realize Ardnaree was a rural area - I thought that townland was near Ballina?
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Yes I am - thank you for sending that over. I was hoping to get an age and mother's name. I've seen that recorded in other church marriage records.
Also, I didn't realize Ardnaree was a rural area - I thought that townland was near Ballina?
On the marriage certificate the witnesses are pretty clearly named. Have you searched for them? Just in case they lead you to a birth and a possible mother's name.
Another way to possibly find, or at least narrow down, what a mother's name might be is to look at the traditional Irish naming patterns.
Traditional Naming Pattern
A traditional naming pattern was often used by Irish parents until the later 19th century:
First son usually named for the father's father
Second son usually named for the mother's father
Third son usually named for the father
Fourth son usually named for the father's eldest brother
Fifth son usually named for the mother's eldest brother
First daughter usually named for the mother's mother
Second daughter usually named for the father's mother
Third daughter usually named for the mother
Fourth daughter usually named for the mother's eldest sister
Fifth daughter usually named for the father's eldest sister.
Here is a link to Ardnaree townland
https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/tireragh/kilmoremoy/ardnaree-or-shanaghy/
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Did William and Mary have any children?
Where do you have them after their marriage?
On their marriage, they are both described as servants so the residences given may not be their family homes.
William gives Downhill as his place and Mary gives Bunree.
There are a couple of entries in petty sessions records which may be Mary.
1) Mary O’Hara of Bunree
17th of August 1867 – leaving her employment (Drapers etc) in Ballina, contrary to her agreement.
2) A few days before - 1st August 1867, Mary O’Hara, Ballina, illegally detained materials given to her for a petticoat. ** this may be her.
3) February 1868 Mary Dixon of Bunree - 2 incidents as complainant and then defendant involved in two assaults with other women.
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I believe they went to the US (Philadelphia) shortly after their marriage. They had many children after arriving in the US.
I'm not 100% sure they are related to me, and the existing research I found isn't the most reliable.
I have relatives Catherine O'Hara born 1847 in the Ballina area and James O'Hara born 18 Nov 1852 in Bunree to parents James O'Hara and Kitty/Catherine Melvin. Catherine had several children in Bunree.
However, the civil marriage record for Mary lists her father as Michael O'Hara.
Mary's Philadelphia death certificate lists her mother's maiden name as Melvin, which would very likely make her related to me, but haven't found any other collaborating evidence. Which is why I was hoping the church marriage record would shed some light there.