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Title: Edward Prichard, b. 1835
Post by: duport on Friday 17 October 25 23:46 BST (UK)
In 1841, Edward PRICHARD, aged 6, is listed as the nephew of John and Catherine (née WILLIAMS) ROBERTS, in Lygan y Wern, Flintshire. In 1851 he is listed as Edward Roberts, their 16-year-old son, b. Halkyn. It looks as if he was taken in and informally adopted by John and Catherine. This often happens when the mother of a child dies, and their father can’t cope. Therefore I’m looking for the death of a Mrs Pri(t)chard between 1841 and Edward’s birth in 1835. She would have been the sister of either John (so her maiden name would have been Roberts), or of Catherine (in which case it would have been Williams).
I’ve found an Edward, son of Richard and Jane Prichard, baptised in 1835, and the burial of Jane in Llannefydd in 1837. This all seems to fit, but Llannefydd is in Denbighshire. I can’t find the marriage of Richard and Jane, which might decide whether they are the right parents. I wonder if anyone could help with this.
Title: Re: Edward Prichard, b. 1835
Post by: amondg on Saturday 18 October 25 00:17 BST (UK)
No relationship is given in 1841 census.

The assumption he is a nephew could mislead you.
Title: Re: Edward Prichard, b. 1835
Post by: amondg on Saturday 18 October 25 00:20 BST (UK)
When Edward Prichard aka Roberts married who did he name as his father?
Title: Re: Edward Prichard, b. 1835
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 18 October 25 11:36 BST (UK)
The non-conformist baptism of Maurice/Morris Roberts 1833 who appears in 1841/51/61 census records his mother as Catherine Roberts nee' Williams daughter of William and Catherine.

As above the baptism of David Roberts names his mother as Catherine nee' Williams.

Wonder if this is Edward's baptism. Were Catherine and Margaret sisters?



SS

added, probably not the above Edward. 1851 census has him with parents ref 2501 585 14
Title: Re: Edward Prichard, b. 1835
Post by: duport on Saturday 18 October 25 20:24 BST (UK)
When Edward Prichard aka Roberts married who did he name as his father?
Edward’s marriage certificate gives John Roberts as his father.
Title: Re: Edward Prichard, b. 1835
Post by: duport on Saturday 18 October 25 20:25 BST (UK)
No relationship is given in 1841 census.

The assumption he is a nephew could mislead you.
Thank you for pointing that out, amondg. The 1841 census markings show that he was living in the same building, but was not part of the household of John and Catherine, so I’d got it into my head that he was related.
Title: Re: Edward Prichard, b. 1835
Post by: duport on Saturday 18 October 25 20:47 BST (UK)
The non-conformist baptism of Maurice/Morris Roberts 1833 who appears in 1841/51/61 census records his mother as Catherine Roberts nee' Williams daughter of William and Catherine.

As above the baptism of David Roberts names his mother as Catherine nee' Williams.

Wonder if this is Edward's baptism. Were Catherine and Margaret sisters?



SS

added, probably not the above Edward. 1851 census has him with parents ref 2501 585 14

Thank you SS. Morris and David were brothers, born 3 years apart. And this is a theme with all the children of John and Catherine - there's a regular 3 year interval between them. Which is another hint that Edward is not their son. Another is that in the 1841 census he is listed out of age sequence  of the children.