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Title: Half a quarter of pedware
Post by: Wayne N on Thursday 09 October 25 10:11 BST (UK)
In this 1565 Will, the testator from Thanet bequeathed the following:

Also I gyve & bequeythe to Robert Astone the sone of Ryc(hard) Astone halfe a some of wheat & half a some of barl(e)ye w(i)th half a quart(er) of pedware to be delyv(er)ed unto him w(i)thin on(e) ye(a)re after my desease

Is the term pedware referring to some type of dried seed, such as beans, lentils, chickpeas or peas?

Quarter measure here I figure to be the equivalent of around 8 bushels and half being 4.
Title: Re: Half a quarter of pedware
Post by: AlanBoyd on Thursday 09 October 25 10:15 BST (UK)
Words from Wills, S A Raymond has
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ped: a wicker pannier; a hamper with a lid, perhaps to carry mackerel (Nfk)
Title: Re: Half a quarter of pedware
Post by: AlanBoyd on Thursday 09 October 25 10:21 BST (UK)
On the other hand, "Reprinted glossaries", Rev Walter Skean 1879 (seen at archive.org) has "Pedware: pulse" which seems a better fit.
Title: Re: Half a quarter of pedware
Post by: Wayne N on Thursday 09 October 25 10:29 BST (UK)
Pulse was my thought, too. If so, was it referring to any particular legume type during that era
Title: Re: Half a quarter of pedware
Post by: AlanBoyd on Thursday 09 October 25 10:32 BST (UK)
And finally (from me)

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Pedware. For podware. Pulse, beans, peas, or any kind of pods[Johnson]

from" "A list of words and phrases in every-day use by the natives of Hetton-le-Hole in the County of Durham, in Lakeland, and in East Anglia, being words not ordinarily accepted, or but seldom found in the standard English of the day" ; Palgrave, Francis Milnes Temple, 1896
Title: Re: Half a quarter of pedware
Post by: Zaphod99 on Thursday 09 October 25 10:48 BST (UK)
https://archive.org/stream/listofwordsphras00palguoft/listofwordsphras00palguoft_djvu.txt

I've only had a quick browse, but I'm going to enjoy this.

Zaph
Title: Re: Half a quarter of pedware
Post by: Tickettyboo on Thursday 09 October 25 10:55 BST (UK)
According to the OED pedware is a variation of podware , both of which are now (till this thread!) more or less obsolete and did refer to all kinds of pulses

Boo
Title: Re: Half a quarter of pedware
Post by: Bookbox on Thursday 09 October 25 11:26 BST (UK)
Just to add that it's ... halfe a seme (of wheat, barley etc.). A seam is a measure of grain etc.
Title: Re: Half a quarter of pedware
Post by: Wayne N on Thursday 09 October 25 12:56 BST (UK)
Thank you to all for your input and links.   :)
 
So Pedware, the podded legumes in Kent seemed to include peas and beans, among other crops
 
Further reading I ended up finding here:
http://bit.ly/4q3oGrG
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Crops grown by east Kent yeomen in the seventeenth century included oats, wheat, barley and rye, hay, timber, hops, flax, hemp, tares (a vetch or lentil-like plant), peas, beans,
apples and pears.

And here:
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/32593/32593-h/32593-h.htm
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Of mixed corn, as peas and beans, sown together, tares and oats (which[Pg 136] they call bulmong), rye and wheat (named miscelin)

Also thank you Bookbox for correcting some > se(a)me  :)
Title: Re: Half a quarter of pedware
Post by: MollyC on Thursday 09 October 25 14:27 BST (UK)
Farmers still grow field beans, which look like broad beans but are not harvested until they are brown, then used for animal fodder.  All of these leguminous crops improve the nitrogen content of the soil.
Title: Re: Half a quarter of pedware
Post by: Wayne N on Thursday 09 October 25 21:18 BST (UK)
Thank you MollyC  :)