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Title: Parents?
Post by: WAND on Wednesday 08 October 25 15:39 BST (UK)
Hi Can anyone find Marriage/Birth entries which would link the people listed below


Peter Nisbet    4th great-grandfather
Birth 17 JUL 1771 • , West Calder, Midlothian, Scotland
Death 1848 • Broxburn Uphall West Lothian Scotland UK

Peter Nisbet  3rd great-grandfather
Birth 1820 • Roslin, Midlothian, Scotland
Death 01 NOV 1884 • Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland

Robert Nisbet  2nd Great Grandfather
Birth 2 NOV 1844 • Gladmuir, East, Lothain, Scotland
Death Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Any help would be appreciated
Title: Re: Parents?
Post by: Little Nell on Wednesday 08 October 25 15:55 BST (UK)
Did Robert die in Scotland? Perhaps 1916 or 1931? Do you have the certificate which should name both his parents.  Similarly for Peter who died in 1884.

Nell
Title: Re: Parents?
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 08 October 25 15:59 BST (UK)
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk is the site to use for BMD info.  It is a pay per view site but the index is free to search

1844 birth entry for Robert shows both parents names & mothers maiden name

Peters 1884 death entry gives his mothers maiden name
Title: Re: Parents?
Post by: Little Nell on Wednesday 08 October 25 16:15 BST (UK)
According to ScotlandsPeople, Robert Nisbet was born 23 Nov 1844 Gladsmuir to Peter Nisbet & Ann Horsburgh.  They married in Pencaitland 26 March 1840.  This Robert died in 1931

The age for Peter who died in 1884 is given as 60 on the ScotlandsPeople index.  His mother's maiden name may have been Ramage.

Nell

Title: Re: Parents?
Post by: WAND on Thursday 09 October 25 11:55 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone
Title: Re: Parents?
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 11 October 25 10:18 BST (UK)
05 Mar 1840 Marriage is on FreeREG
Bachelor/Spinster
Peter a Ploughman
Abode for both Huntlaw

Bapts Gladsmuir
ROBERT 23 Nov 1844   birth 02 Nov 1844
JOHN HENDERSON 14 Mar 1847 birth 05 Feb 1847

A Mrs Nisbet was buried there 7 Feb 1847
(died after giving birth to John H ?)

Peter remarried to Mary SCOTT 12 Jun 1847, abode  for Peter as Longniddry and occ farm servant
Same as JH's 1847 bapt.

Interestingly there is a JOHN Nisbet and Mary HORSBURGH bapt children there also from 1838
They married 18 Nov 1836

1851 Census
Peter NISBET 31
Mary Scott 39
Mary Nisbet 13
Charles Nisbet 9
Robert Nisbet 6
John Nisbet 4
Jane Nisebt 2
Alexander Nisbet 2 mths

I always do my own research before looking at Trees and found a mistake or 2
Mary Nisbit is not Peters daughter but illegitimate
Makes sense if you look at his marriage dates.

Mary SCOTT Christening  19 April 1838 Gladsmuir, Haddingtonshire
Birth  12 February 1838
Mother MARY Scott
(F/S.Org)

CHARLES Nisbet bapt 21 Feb 1841 Yester Parish Church, Father PETER
Mothers name not given

All info on FreeREG unless otherwise stated

Trish :)


Title: Re: Parents?
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 11 October 25 11:24 BST (UK)
Also if Peter was born c 1821 then if his Father was Peter born 1771 he would be 50 when Peter Jnr was born.

I cant see a c 1821 bapt for Peter with my resources but you may find something on scotlandspeople.

Have said that if Peter Snr was born c 1771 the Marriage entry may explain why he married late in life;

Going from Trees he married Marion;

On FreeRG
Marriage;
Dunbar Parish Church 10 May 1813
Marion HARCASS/Peter NISBET   

Marion of Dunbar Parish and Peters oocp Soldier Berwickshire Militia**

F/S.Org

Margaret Nisbset bapt Christened  21 September 1817 Dunbar to Peter Nisbset and Marion Harcas

Possible another child death;
John Nisbet
Death  11 December 1868
Dunbar, Haddingtonshire
Birth  1822 
Parents Peter Nisbet, May Herkes Nisbet

Looks pretty good;
Marriage;
MARGARET Nisbet
Marriage  1 June 1860
Stirling, Stirlingshire
Birth 1818
Spouse James ANDERSON, Tailor
Her Parents Peter Nisbet and Mary Herkus

Margaret Nisbet, Wife
Death Date   24 December 1883
Father's Name   Peter Nisbet, Bootmaker
Spouse's Name   James Anderson, Tailor and Clothier
Event Type   Obituary
Event Date   25 December 1883


Title: Re: Parents?
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 11 October 25 11:42 BST (UK)
Something wrong here but have to sign out so posting and will come back to it in a day or so!
(unless someone else figures it out sooner? :))

1851 Census
High St, Dunbar
East Lothian
Peter Neshit 68 Head Shoemaker
May Herkes 63 Wife
Peter Neshit 36 Son
John Neshit 28 Son
Carles Nesbit 24 Son
Agnes Neshit 21 Daughter
George Neshit 8 Grandson

So who is this Peter as yours was married to Mary Scott in 1851 Census
Title: Re: Parents?
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 11 October 25 11:45 BST (UK)
I'm getting a bit confused by this thread.

You say that Robert b 1844 died in Edinburgh. In what year did he die, and what was the name of his wife? What were the names of his children, and which one are you descended from?

You also say that Peter b 1820 died in 1884. The only adult Peter Nisbet whose death was registered in 1884 was aged 60, and his mother's maiden surname was Ramage.

Ann Horsburgh's son Robert, baptised 1844, died in 1931 aged 87.

So you need to resolve the disparity in the names of the mothers.

Have you seen Peter's 1884 death certificate?
Title: Re: Parents?
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 11 October 25 11:47 BST (UK)
Yep I am confused too Forfarian and too late for my brain to work now. :)

Logging out :)

Title: Re: Parents?
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 11 October 25 13:37 BST (UK)
Indeed.

There are four deaths of Robert Nisbets born 1844 plus or minus 3 years. See screenshot. Before going any further back we need to know which of these is the one WAND is descended from.





Title: Re: Parents?
Post by: PatLac on Saturday 11 October 25 15:30 BST (UK)
This Peter NISBET was christened in 1814.

NISBET
PETER
PETER NISBET/MARION HARCASS FR917 (FR917)
M
19/05/1814
706
40 / 159
Dunbar