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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: CHackett on Tuesday 07 October 25 11:33 BST (UK)
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To my knowledge, Elizabeth Tomlinson (unknown maiden name) was married to John Tomlinson (b.1792). They had 6 children, including my greatx3 grandfather, Charles Tomlinson (b.1831).
When trying to go back further, I have found that Elizabeth may have already been married to a George Brown, and John may have been married to a Sarah Hackett. - Not sure if these are the same Elizabeth and John?
I have not found definitive proof, and I am a bit confused, as this could affect children's birth dates and raise questions about whether Elizabeth is the mother.
Could anyone help settle my confusion?
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Where was Charles born, I presume in Derbyshire :-\
There is a baptism in Belper for a Charles Tomlinson who was born 22 April 1831 and baptised 15 July 1837 with parents John Tomlinson and Elizabeth Tomlinson nee Webster. A daughter Elizabeth bn 8th August 1828 was baptised at the same time -their abode is shown as Duffield
Also baptised at the same time - Ebenezer bn 1835. Fathers occupation Nailmaker
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It looks as though Ebenezer died in 1838
John Tomlinson married Elizabeth Webster 20 Feb 1812 at Wirksworth
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Other possible baptisms at Belper
John 1812 (mmn Webster) - abode Belper
Mary 1819 (abode Heage) - father a Nailmaker
Salome 1821 - fathers occ Nailor - abode Belper
James 1823 - father occ Nailor - abode Belper
William 1826 - father occ Nailor - abode Belper
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Thank you, this makes a lot more sense as these were the names of the other children I had written down. Everything is a bit clearer now!
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For interest, on the marriage cert John TOMLINSON and Elizabeth WEBSTER were both of Alderwasley. He signed, she by "mark". Witnesses were Matthew WEBSTER and Thomas TOMLINSON.
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1841 the Family is living in Selston, Notts, Basford Reg District.
Death Reg;
TOMLINSON, ELIZABETH age 50
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in BASFORD Volume 15 Page 269
Birth c 1793
Burial;
09 Jul 1843 St Helen, Selston
ELIZABETH Tomlinson age 50
Abode Selston
(FreeREG)
Trish :)
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Possible Marriage witness Matthew Webster may have been bapt 10 Apr 1791 Belper to ARTHUR/SARAH
He was a Baker on Census.
1841 mistranscribed as Matthew Wokstes!
1851/1861 easy to find.
Likely married Martha GREEN 28 Jul 1817
ARTHUR Webster married Sarah SWIFT 27 Dec 1781 St Alkmund, Belper.
They bapt Belper;
JAMES 24 Dec 1786
MARY 01 Feb 1789
MATTHEW as above**
ELIZABETH 23 Jun 1793********
So very possible marriage witness was Elizabeths Brother Matthew :)
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For interest:
Thursday, May 20, 1802
Publication: Derby Mercury
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Just noted a Tree has Death Reg for as March 1843 Basford.
That Elizabeth on GRO was age 43 so too young to marry 1812.
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I have found this as a potential death record for Elizabeth, with a widow of John Tomlinson and Charles Tomlinson signing it (potentially her son), although this says she died in December 1875, not in 1843 as some have suggested.
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That would be his second Wife as he remarried to Elizabeth BROWN 24 Dec. 1855 Duffield
Both Widowed.
Elizabeth nee Bond. Father George Bond.
His Thomas Tomlinson Nailer.
EDIT 1871 Elizabeth is living a few doors down from Charles and Family.
Age 83, Widow, born Bonsall
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1861 we have;
John Tomlinson 69 Head Mar Nailer born Belper
Elizabeth Tomlinson 72 Wife Mar born Bonsae(sic)
Elizabeth Booth 17 Granddaughter born Selston
Elizabeth is the daug of Jacob BOOTH and Salome nee Tomlinson
2 Aug. 1841 Selston, St. Helen, Nottinghamshire
Solomey Tomlinson to Jacob Booth, Fathers JOHN and CALOB
1851 Census John Tomlinson is Widowed*****
So Elizabeth had to have died between 1841-1851
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Is it possible that John Tomlinson married Sarah Hackett between the two Elizabeths?
If Elizabeth Webster (first wife) died in 1843, and he didn't marry Elizabeth Brown until 1855.
I have found a record on Family Search that there was a potential marriage to Sarah Hackett in 1843, Sarah later died in 1851. Not sure how accurate this record is, though.
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The John Tomlinson / Sarah Hackett marriage transcript states that John was single and that his father was William Tomlinson
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I cannot see a death on GRO that would fit for Sarah in 1851 :-\
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The John Tomlinson / Sarah Hackett marriage transcript states that John was single and that his father was William Tomlinson
I see that when John Tomlinson married Elizabeth Brown they were both widowed.
Johns father was Thomas Tomlinson
Elizabeths father was George BOND
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The John Tomlinson / Sarah Hackett marriage transcript states that John was single and that his father was William Tomlinson
Also, this John TOMLINSON was a grocer.