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Title: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: Higpoidius on Thursday 02 October 25 17:04 BST (UK)
Trying to find any information about Agnes Mafis:

WILLIAM EVANS m. AGNES MAFIS 1 JAN 1713 PLYMOUTH ST. ANDREW

I have found these children:

WILLIAM MASON 14 FEB 1719 PLYMOUTH
ALEXANDER MASON 14 OCT 1722 PLYMOUTH

Wondering if Mafis might be Mathis, or perhaps a foreign name? Can't find a birth or parentage anywhere. Any help or suggestions gratefully received.

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 02 October 25 17:20 BST (UK)
The register images on FindMyPast are not mentioning Mason on either of those baptisms  :-\
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: Higpoidius on Thursday 02 October 25 17:23 BST (UK)
Sorry, rosie99, my mistake. The surname should be EVANS for both children.
Working on several lines at once and confused the names!
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 03 October 25 01:34 BST (UK)
Without seeing the original image, I wonder if the name might be MOSES or similar, with the "f" being mis-transcribed?
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: Higpoidius on Friday 03 October 25 11:44 BST (UK)
Thanks for this maddys52. Nothing coming up. Will try some other combinations.
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 03 October 25 12:02 BST (UK)
Sorry I cannot post an image but I was trying to compare letters with others on the page. 

The Ma were the same as those in Mary in an entry below, the i was also the same as others on the page.  The f could be an f but I did not find another to compare.  The s could be anything, it did not look like other s that were on the end of a word.
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: Higpoidius on Friday 03 October 25 13:12 BST (UK)
Thanks rosie99, that's enormously helpful that you've seen the actual image. At least I now know 3 of the letters, so narrows the search down considerably.
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: Comberton on Friday 03 October 25 22:27 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: osprey on Friday 03 October 25 22:38 BST (UK)
image here on FamilySearch

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC9X-3H6?lang=en


Sorry - didn't see your clip when I posted.
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: Reg Scribe on Saturday 04 October 25 17:06 BST (UK)
I think that the name written is Mafis. For the final S compare with the Francis Harris marriage on the same page March 12th 1713.

As they were married by licence you should be able to find the entry in the Bishops Act books at the Devon Heritage Centre & compare her name there. The reference or the correct volume is:

DEX/1/b/8   Act Book Volume 8   1704- 1719

Furthermore also at the Devon Heritage Centre is the library of the Devon & Cornwall Record Society which has transcripts of  the Devon marriage licences granted, using either of the above you may if it has survived find a copy of the licence bond or allegation, which also give the name of the bride.

Quote from the Devon Heritage Centre Catalogue
Marriage Bonds and Allegations: documents prior to the issue of a Licence

“The Exeter Diocesan marriage bonds and allegations, covering the years 1660 to 1842, were sorted some years ago into chronological (date) series for Devon (held in 169 boxes) and a separate series for Cornwall (held in 32 boxes). The Exeter marriage bonds have a maximum date range of December 1660 to October 1823 for Devon........”
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: Higpoidius on Sunday 05 October 25 16:31 BST (UK)
Thanks so much, Comberton and osprey. Great to see the image and rest of the page. Wondering if it could possibly be Mafit =Moffat?? Still following up possibilities!
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: Higpoidius on Sunday 05 October 25 16:33 BST (UK)
Thanks too to Reg Scribe for the excellent lead. Will follow that up.
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: DOB7 on Wednesday 15 October 25 18:03 BST (UK)
I'm reading it as MASIE -check the end 's' in Edmonds below, or even in Agnes' own forename - the 5th letter is not an 's' in your Agnes' name. There is also an annotation to the right of Agnes' surname - it's repeated on a few other female entries - Li or Si.
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: Higpoidius on Thursday 16 October 25 12:27 BST (UK)
Thanks for this, DOB7. definitely worth considering.

There is an Agnes MAYSEY 1510 1681, Ermington, Devon (only 12 miles from Plymouth)...
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: jonwarrn on Thursday 16 October 25 20:20 BST (UK)
Image of BT here.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L93K-GJTY
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: Higpoidius on Friday 17 October 25 11:33 BST (UK)
Thanks as always jonwarrn for this. Definitely Mafis there. Still wondering if it might have been MAVIS, and just written down differently. The only Mavis families I can find are in Staffordshire, but again no record of an Agnes. This might just be one of those cases where we can only surmise.
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 17 October 25 13:05 BST (UK)
“The Exeter Diocesan marriage bonds and allegations, covering the years 1660 to 1842, were sorted some years ago into chronological (date) series for Devon (held in 169 boxes) and a separate series for Cornwall (held in 32 boxes). The Exeter marriage bonds have a maximum date range of December 1660 to October 1823 for Devon........”

So the films of these are here
https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/olib:4092067

Many films have been indexed by FamilySearch, but not all of them.
I do think maybe the bonds for 1713 are not all there. January - March 1713/1714, yes, and the bond could be dated the same day as the marriage (1 January 1713/14)
But if it was dated a day or more before, as they often are, then so far I haven't seen a film, say, covering December 1713.
Title: Re: Agnes Mafis m. William Evans 1713 Plymouth St. Andrew
Post by: Higpoidius on Friday 17 October 25 15:01 BST (UK)
This is fantastic, jonwarrn, thank you so much for the link.

I see what you mean about not all the files being there. Will keep checking them, but can't find anything so far. Frustrating if that period is missing!