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Title: Charles Brady
Post by: catherine k on Tuesday 30 September 25 20:37 BST (UK)
Hi I'm searching for information on Charles Brady born 1898 in Kilnaleck Co Cavan Ireland
I don't have much information about his family he travelled to Glasgow then Newcastle upon tyne in 1980 My dear friend wants to travel to Cavan but Has no information about his family only that Charlie had sister called Rosealeen who died tragically age 13 and had brothers but all went to America and his mother was Mary think her maiden name was Corican there's not much to go on but would be grateful for any help
Thank you
Catherine K
Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 30 September 25 22:19 BST (UK)
In 1980 he would have been 82 - did he die in Ireland?

Who was his wife?   His fathers name will be on their marriage cert
Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 30 September 25 22:19 BST (UK)
In what year did Rosealeen die?

The only Charles Brady who was born in Cavan SRD (Bellananagh RD) in 1898 was at Drumhirk townland on 2 April 1898.  MMN McCabe   #289
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1898/02082/1794334.pdf


Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 30 September 25 22:33 BST (UK)
This death registration fits with the details in the original post-
Charles Brady (birth 2 Apr.1898) death Jan./Mar.1980 Newcastle/T dist. vol.2 page 362

This birth registration just posted by Kiltaglassan matches-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1898/02082/1794334.pdf

Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 30 September 25 22:53 BST (UK)
A widowed Margaret Brady shopkeeper with several sons, including Charles (age 3)-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Denn/Drumlurk/1061333/
Townland has been mis-transcribed as Drumlurk-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003922751/
Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 30 September 25 22:58 BST (UK)
Father Charles died Dec.1900 age 40-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05735/4618785.pdf
Further down the page is the death of infant child Owen.

Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 30 September 25 23:09 BST (UK)
1911 census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Denn/Dennmore_or_Legganden/337803/
Charles is with his McCabe Uncle and Aunt
Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: catherine k on Tuesday 30 September 25 23:28 BST (UK)
Thanyou all for your replies I'm very grateful for all your help Charles Brady did did in Newcastle upon tyne 1980
And that's really interesting his father was called Charles and his Mothers Maiden name was MCCabe I don't know when Rosaleen was born or what year she died only that Charles had told my Grandad who was a Irishman  she was younger than him and all his Brothers went to America but we have no names I know it's not very much information he left Ireland and went to the Gorbals Scotland and got married in 1926 in Newcastle upon tyne I will get my friend to purchase a marriage certificate
Thanking you all Kindly
Catherine W
Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 30 September 25 23:35 BST (UK)
The story about a younger sister Rosaleen doesn't add up unless she was a younger half sister (presuming that mother re-married)?

Charles born Apr.1898
Owen born Oct.1900 died Feb.1901
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1900/01973/1760460.pdf (thought I'd ported this birth earlier but see that I didn't)
father Charles died Dec.1900
Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 30 September 25 23:45 BST (UK)
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Hi I'm searching for information on Charles Brady born 1898 in Kilnaleck Co Cavan Ireland

There was a Rosanne Frances Brady born 1899 in Kilnaleck but her father Patrick was a publican-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1899/02017/1774155.pdf
Here's that family in 1901 and 1911-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Kilnaleck/Kilnaleck/1065638/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Kilnaleck/Kilnaleck_Town/342064/
Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: catherine k on Wednesday 01 October 25 00:15 BST (UK)
I wonder if this is the family from Kilnaleck as Roseanne could well be her. my friend has just message saying  she thinks the father was called Patrick but is going to purchase a marriage cert and the mother was Mary and died tragically before his dad and he was left a widoweralso Charles Brady  could have left home potato picking maybe that's why he wasn't on the 1911 Census
Thankyou
Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 01 October 25 02:42 BST (UK)
What were the names of the brothers who went to USA?
Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: catherine k on Wednesday 01 October 25 08:08 BST (UK)
I don't know the name's of his Brothers I wish I did as it's like a needle in a Haystack
Thank you
Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 01 October 25 09:46 BST (UK)
I think you can't go by what your friend has 'remembered' to trace Charles Brady. So far they seem to have claimed he was born on a certain date in 1898 (based on death index perhaps?), a younger sister 'Rosaleen' (I have failed, so far, to find a her in census records or suitable match on Irish Genealogy for her death (or birth) using Ros* as the first name) and now a father called 'Patrick' which is a totally different family than the Charles born in 1898.

Usually one would work back through available records but since the death isn't quite clear-cut it might be better to start with Charles' marriage- if name of wife is already known- to see father's name and occupation.
Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: catherine k on Wednesday 01 October 25 22:12 BST (UK)
Hi yes I totally agree there's no record of Charles  sister Rosaleen I have told my friend she needs her Grandparents Winifred Wallace  Charles Brady  marriage certificate as the only information is Charles living in Newcastle in 1939 Census was born April 13 1898 but his family said it was April 2nd 1898  and his Death was 1980 and is buried in Elswick cemetery my Grandad was at his funeral but his past  Born and living in Cavan with his family is a mystery that cannot be solved until she gets this information
Thanking you Kindly
Catherine K
Title: Re: Charles Brady
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 02 October 25 14:45 BST (UK)

catherine k

Note that it was a general register in 1939, not a census.

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/1939-register/